another fishing area closes due to quota

[HUNTIN4SIX]

I'll just say some of these comments are spot on and some are off the mark. I feel like this topic comes up every year.

I think the main problem is the increasing base of recreational anglers and lack of released fish to accommodate them. Puget Sound fisheries are doomed, ya'll have no habitat anymore, restoration is happening slower than development of the same habitat type they are trying to make. And the general disassociation between the public and where their food or others (sportsmans) actually come from leads the public to view harvest in a bad light.

Suing the federal government and the state has become big business for non-profits. By law all their expenses are paid for if the win the case, therefore can hire the largest legal team they can assemble for free. Then they use the lawyers to exploit loopholes to close hatcheries, fisheries etc. under the guise of preserving the resource.

Just wait, until next year when the state drops their "Capture with a camera not on a hook campaign."

  I'm out 

 
Hatcheries are a lifeline where production has been decreased for the sake of “wild” fish recovery.  Production needs to be brought back to 90’s levels. 

[jackelope]

Creel reports don't show anywhere near 58%.  Not sure how they manipulate the catch numbers but they must calculate a pretty big fudge factor on top of what they observe.  Politics like everything else.

Encounters..
Average 5-10 to 1. Minimum.
They baited us into believing this year was going to be a stellar season of opportunity...with good fishing. Buy your license....blah blah..
Well it's great fishing... it's the opportunity that is disappearing daily. For rec guys anyway.
Area 5 is soon to follow according to sources.
All our seasons will soon end up being a mad rush of a couple days...

I have a suspicion of why the quota's "allegedly" are getting burned up fast ..but it will get my blood pressure up to talk about it.

I’d imagine a different user group is going over there quota and the sportsman get punished for it.

Did you read the release? It says "Feedback from Puget Sound Sports Fishing Advisory Group and other members of the public indicated a desire to preserve Chinook fishing opportunity for August. "
So did tribes infiltrate the advisory group? Or did they stop at agreed upon Encounters?  SMH

what’s your point? I’m a bit confused, are you saying the tribes won’t fish as usual?

I think what he’s saying is there was an agreed upon quota that was set by “sport fishing advisory group and other members of the public” to preserve the ability to fish kings in august too. So shut it down now and save some fish for august fishing?  Really I have no clue how any of that works, but that’s how I read it.

[Flaming Antler Outdoors]

The reality is WDFW has to use methods to count fish that is probably too aggressive because how else would you counter the effects of a netting industry.  Talk about encounters, under sized, by catch etc.  How many small undersized blackmouth/kings are caught by nets.  Whoa i can only image what a net looks like up in Sekiu or Neah bay between June and August. 

[Stein]

You apply metrics to the nets just the same.  If the tribe or commercial goes over, they go over and should lose quota next year or get a huge quota penalty if you want to take from recs (there should be a big "give" to go along with the take, but that doesn't happen).  Without data we should not be applying anything extra.  Abide by the agreement as written.

That said, I don't know there is any evidence WDFW is doing anything other than that.

Someone should send in a FOI and find out.

[birddogdad]

You apply metrics to the nets just the same.  If the tribe or commercial goes over, they go over and should lose quota next year or get a huge quota penalty if you want to take from recs (there should be a big "give" to go along with the take, but that doesn't happen).  Without data we should not be applying anything extra.  Abide by the agreement as written.

That said, I don't know there is any evidence WDFW is doing anything other than that.

Someone should send in a FOI and find out.

never going to impose restrictions on tribes.. they have lawyers... us however are on our own and low hanging fruit for regulation and fines to payrole the state industry