Wyoming Corner Cross: landowner claims Millions in damages

[Platensek-po]

There are a lot of people who solely benefit financially from public land. It's a right they have earned through purchasing mining claims or lease agreements for agriculture or grazing etc. So why aren't you guys going after the USDA for allowing someone to profit off of your precious public land? One person profiting off of public land when nobody else is making money from it literally happens across this entire country. Your only saying this because it's a hunting issue or what?

You said it yourself tho. Those people have entered into agreements with the government entities entrusted to hold those lands for the public. This guy literally is just claiming this land as his own while giving nothing at all back to anyone. In fact he is trying to take even more from the public. Not even close in comparison. And by the way we influence those government entities for leases all the time, like the pebble mine and boundary waters mines. There is public input. I don’t agree with all the leases ornuses of publicnland but at least they are entrusted. This guy is making money by just putting up a fence and denying you access to what is actually yours. Where is your anger against this guy for stealing from you?

[HntnFsh]

Did the hunters harvest anything, just curious.

If I remember correctly from when they were on the Meateater podcast, they harvested a bull/bulls in 2020 and two bulls in 2021

So I also wonder if that spot is getting hit hard now by other hunters who can't seem to find their own spots?  Since the case was thrown out, what is to stop people now from crossing and using the public land?

Hopefully nothing is stopping anybody from using that public land that wants to. Thats the way it should be.

[Knocker of rocks]

The person in question is not trying to get the money from the government, he is apparently suing the hunters

[grundy53]

There are a lot of people who solely benefit financially from public land. It's a right they have earned through purchasing mining claims or lease agreements for agriculture or grazing etc. So why aren't you guys going after the USDA for allowing someone to profit off of your precious public land? One person profiting off of public land when nobody else is making money from it literally happens across this entire country. Your only saying this because it's a hunting issue or what?

Most of those leases don't keep the public from using the land. Especially grazing leases.

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[Dan-o]

There are a lot of people who solely benefit financially from public land. It's a right they have earned through purchasing mining claims or lease agreements for agriculture or grazing etc. So why aren't you guys going after the USDA for allowing someone to profit off of your precious public land? One person profiting off of public land when nobody else is making money from it literally happens across this entire country. Your only saying this because it's a hunting issue or what?

Most of those leases don't keep the public from using the land. Especially grazing leases.

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This. 

Plus the fact that those people are paying to lease the land and this guy is just trying to force us off public land he has no more right to than you or I.

I hunt lots of dnr land that is leased to farmers and the dnr folks in this state have been super supportive of our right to use that land recreational.

[LDennis24]

The point was that even landlocked public land is leased to people who profit off of it without you ever being able to set foot on it. That happens all over the place. It doesn't explicitly say that the public is not allowed but the fact that there is no easement makes that true.

[LDennis24]

There are a lot of people who solely benefit financially from public land. It's a right they have earned through purchasing mining claims or lease agreements for agriculture or grazing etc. So why aren't you guys going after the USDA for allowing someone to profit off of your precious public land? One person profiting off of public land when nobody else is making money from it literally happens across this entire country. Your only saying this because it's a hunting issue or what?

You said it yourself tho. Those people have entered into agreements with the government entities entrusted to hold those lands for the public. This guy literally is just claiming this land as his own while giving nothing at all back to anyone. In fact he is trying to take even more from the public. Not even close in comparison. And by the way we influence those government entities for leases all the time, like the pebble mine and boundary waters mines. There is public input. I don’t agree with all the leases ornuses of publicnland but at least they are entrusted. This guy is making money by just putting up a fence and denying you access to what is actually yours. Where is your anger against this guy for stealing from you?

I agree he doesn't have the rights to the land. But I don't agree with enforcing eminent domain to allow access. I don't have a problem with him because I will never go to that spot to hunt. I'm not losing anything because I never had it in the first place in my opinion. I just get the feeling that people's comments on here are based on " This guy has lots of money and is therefore a crooked @****le." And I don't believe that to be so. Same with the argument about his land being valued at a higher price due to the public land involved. I'm not sure he can claim millions in losses. Ask any realtor about property value when it is near a park or public land or national forest. It's value goes up. People are also definitely going to pay more for a piece of property they think will give them exclusive access to some hunting land. No matter if that land is public, private, or even part of a landowners hunting club or something. So if he did this and now the ruling shows that you don't have that value in your property anymore then he will most likely be getting paid for loss of value in some form. You can even sue your neighbor for being a disgusting slob in this country, because it brings down the value of your home next door. So his claim is legit. The actual monetary sum however is probably less than what he is going for. I'm not an expert on this. I just know you can sue for it. 

[grundy53]

There are a lot of people who solely benefit financially from public land. It's a right they have earned through purchasing mining claims or lease agreements for agriculture or grazing etc. So why aren't you guys going after the USDA for allowing someone to profit off of your precious public land? One person profiting off of public land when nobody else is making money from it literally happens across this entire country. Your only saying this because it's a hunting issue or what?

You said it yourself tho. Those people have entered into agreements with the government entities entrusted to hold those lands for the public. This guy literally is just claiming this land as his own while giving nothing at all back to anyone. In fact he is trying to take even more from the public. Not even close in comparison. And by the way we influence those government entities for leases all the time, like the pebble mine and boundary waters mines. There is public input. I don’t agree with all the leases ornuses of publicnland but at least they are entrusted. This guy is making money by just putting up a fence and denying you access to what is actually yours. Where is your anger against this guy for stealing from you?

I agree he doesn't have the rights to the land. But I don't agree with enforcing eminent domain to allow access. I don't have a problem with him because I will never go to that spot to hunt. I'm not losing anything because I never had it in the first place in my opinion. I just get the feeling that people's comments on here are based on " This guy has lots of money and is therefore a crooked @****le." And I don't believe that to be so. Same with the argument about his land being valued at a higher price due to the public land involved. I'm not sure he can claim millions in losses. Ask any realtor about property value when it is near a park or public land or national forest. It's value goes up. People are also definitely going to pay more for a piece of property they think will give them exclusive access to some hunting land. No matter if that land is public, private, or even part of a landowners hunting club or something. So if he did this and now the ruling shows that you don't have that value in your property anymore then he will most likely be getting paid for loss of value in some form. You can even sue your neighbor for being a disgusting slob in this country, because it brings down the value of your home next door. So his claim is legit. The actual monetary sum however is probably less than what he is going for. I'm not an expert on this. I just know you can sue for it. 

I don't care how much money he has. I care about him keeping people off of public land.

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[JakeLand]

There are a lot of people who solely benefit financially from public land. It's a right they have earned through purchasing mining claims or lease agreements for agriculture or grazing etc. So why aren't you guys going after the USDA for allowing someone to profit off of your precious public land? One person profiting off of public land when nobody else is making money from it literally happens across this entire country. Your only saying this because it's a hunting issue or what?

You said it yourself tho. Those people have entered into agreements with the government entities entrusted to hold those lands for the public. This guy literally is just claiming this land as his own while giving nothing at all back to anyone. In fact he is trying to take even more from the public. Not even close in comparison. And by the way we influence those government entities for leases all the time, like the pebble mine and boundary waters mines. There is public input. I don’t agree with all the leases ornuses of publicnland but at least they are entrusted. This guy is making money by just putting up a fence and denying you access to what is actually yours. Where is your anger against this guy for stealing from you?

I agree he doesn't have the rights to the land. But I don't agree with enforcing eminent domain to allow access. I don't have a problem with him because I will never go to that spot to hunt. I'm not losing anything because I never had it in the first place in my opinion. I just get the feeling that people's comments on here are based on " This guy has lots of money and is therefore a crooked @****le." And I don't believe that to be so. Same with the argument about his land being valued at a higher price due to the public land involved. I'm not sure he can claim millions in losses. Ask any realtor about property value when it is near a park or public land or national forest. It's value goes up. People are also definitely going to pay more for a piece of property they think will give them exclusive access to some hunting land. No matter if that land is public, private, or even part of a landowners hunting club or something. So if he did this and now the ruling shows that you don't have that value in your property anymore then he will most likely be getting paid for loss of value in some form. You can even sue your neighbor for being a disgusting slob in this country, because it brings down the value of your home next door. So his claim is legit. The actual monetary sum however is probably less than what he is going for. I'm not an expert on this. I just know you can sue for it. 

I don't care how much money he has. I care about him keeping people off of public land.

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this !! And they didn’t even step a foot on his dirt and they damaged him ?? Cmon he’s a land whore that doesn’t care plain and simple . There’s no just with him  he’s just a dick simple

[Dan-o]

I'm not against him because he's rich. 

He has every right to keep us off his private property.

But in this case I wish the government would just rip off the band aid and do a mini little imminent domain on those corners.   
Condemn a 15' circle and impulse then for their actual loss.   Heck, take 25 square feet of their property and give them 50 square feet in return.

I know others may disagree. 

I just can't see letting a few rich people control a bunch of public land.

[NumaJohn]

I'm not against him because he's rich. 

He has every right to keep us off his private property.

But in this case I wish the government would just rip off the band aid and do a mini little imminent domain on those corners.   
Condemn a 15' circle and impulse then for their actual loss.   Heck, take 25 square feet of their property and give them 50 square feet in return.

I know others may disagree. 

I just can't see letting a few rich people control a bunch of public land.

 

[Platensek-po]

The only reason it matters that he is rich is because he is using his money to steal from the public.

[Boss .300 winmag]

I'm not against him because he's rich. 

He has every right to keep us off his private property.

But in this case I wish the government would just rip off the band aid and do a mini little imminent domain on those corners.   
Condemn a 15' circle and impulse then for their actual loss.   Heck, take 25 square feet of their property and give them 50 square feet in return.

I know others may disagree. 

I just can't see letting a few rich people control a bunch of public land.

I’m with you on that idea, except it needs to be a square, easier to build a fence.🤣

[OutHouse]

There are a lot of people who solely benefit financially from public land. It's a right they have earned through purchasing mining claims or lease agreements for agriculture or grazing etc. So why aren't you guys going after the USDA for allowing someone to profit off of your precious public land? One person profiting off of public land when nobody else is making money from it literally happens across this entire country. Your only saying this because it's a hunting issue or what?

You said it yourself tho. Those people have entered into agreements with the government entities entrusted to hold those lands for the public. This guy literally is just claiming this land as his own while giving nothing at all back to anyone. In fact he is trying to take even more from the public. Not even close in comparison. And by the way we influence those government entities for leases all the time, like the pebble mine and boundary waters mines. There is public input. I don’t agree with all the leases ornuses of publicnland but at least they are entrusted. This guy is making money by just putting up a fence and denying you access to what is actually yours. Where is your anger against this guy for stealing from you?

I agree he doesn't have the rights to the land. But I don't agree with enforcing eminent domain to allow access. I don't have a problem with him because I will never go to that spot to hunt. I'm not losing anything because I never had it in the first place in my opinion. I just get the feeling that people's comments on here are based on " This guy has lots of money and is therefore a crooked @****le." And I don't believe that to be so. Same with the argument about his land being valued at a higher price due to the public land involved. I'm not sure he can claim millions in losses. Ask any realtor about property value when it is near a park or public land or national forest. It's value goes up. People are also definitely going to pay more for a piece of property they think will give them exclusive access to some hunting land. No matter if that land is public, private, or even part of a landowners hunting club or something. So if he did this and now the ruling shows that you don't have that value in your property anymore then he will most likely be getting paid for loss of value in some form. You can even sue your neighbor for being a disgusting slob in this country, because it brings down the value of your home next door. So his claim is legit. The actual monetary sum however is probably less than what he is going for. I'm not an expert on this. I just know you can sue for it. 

You have continuously ignored the fact that no one cares about their money because the issue is about public access. Its honestly getting tiresome to hear your proclamations that the issue is other people's jealousy. Its lazy argument dude.

[LDennis24]

"You have continuously ignored the fact that no one cares about their money because the issue is about public access. Its honestly getting tiresome to hear your proclamations that the issue is other people's jealousy. Its lazy argument dude."

The start of this thread and the article posted was about monetary claims (money). Not the right to enter the public land. That was already established by the other ruling. You can go there and corner cross till your legs fall off. This is about money now. Maybe you should have actually read the article? Don't be jealous that this guy has way more hunting opportunities than you ever will... And 💰💵   After all, the jealousy makes you seem weak.