Wyoming Corner Cross: landowner claims Millions in damages

[full choke]

"You have continuously ignored the fact that no one cares about their money because the issue is about public access. Its honestly getting tiresome to hear your proclamations that the issue is other people's jealousy. Its lazy argument dude."

The start of this thread and the article posted was about monetary claims (money). Not the right to enter the public land. That was already established by the other ruling. You can go there and corner cross till your legs fall off. This is about money now. Maybe you should have actually read the article? Don't be jealous that this guy has way more hunting opportunities than you ever will... And 💰💵   After all, the jealousy makes you seem weak. 

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[Dan-o]

"You have continuously ignored the fact that no one cares about their money because the issue is about public access. Its honestly getting tiresome to hear your proclamations that the issue is other people's jealousy. Its lazy argument dude."

The start of this thread and the article posted was about monetary claims (money). Not the right to enter the public land. That was already established by the other ruling. You can go there and corner cross till your legs fall off. This is about money now. Maybe you should have actually read the article? Don't be jealous that this guy has way more hunting opportunities than you ever will... And 💰💵   After all, the jealousy makes you seem weak. 

You continue to mischaracterize what the rest of us are saying.

You can disagree with what the rest of us are saying, but your arguments are disingenuous.   
It makes you seem weak.   

[cem3434]

 

[Ocurtis]

On another note - everyone go give $20 to $50 to these guys. If it is more than needed, it will go Yes access.

I am not going to get into an argument with the one person supporting this rancher. It isn't about him being crooked, its about him thinking he can strong arm these hunters because f his financial status. I 100% support working as hard as you want to be as rich as you want. Just don;t use that money o squeeze the heads of your fellowman!

We need this win for all of us that hunt public lands!

[LDennis24]

On another note - everyone go give $20 to $50 to these guys. If it is more than needed, it will go Yes access.

I am not going to get into an argument with the one person supporting this rancher. It isn't about him being crooked, its about him thinking he can strong arm these hunters because f his financial status. I 100% support working as hard as you want to be as rich as you want. Just don;t use that money o squeeze the heads of your fellowman!

We need this win for all of us that hunt public lands!

Weird, another comment about his money!

I didn't say I support the rancher 100%. I said I didn't believe he was owed that much in damages and I said that you can sue someone for devaluation of your land. So he has a chance. The decision on corner crossing was already determined, so everyone still whining about that is just that. A whiner. Some comments on the other thread where I posted this damage claim article again called for eminent domain to take from this ranch owner and give to the public. Once again, that's Socialism. So if that's what you favor in order to get your precious little hunting spot then I don't blame private landowners for a second when they deny people the opportunity to hunt. Enjoy yourselves. Empty your bank account for these hunters and send it to GoFundMe as well. 

[Platensek-po]

On another note - everyone go give $20 to $50 to these guys. If it is more than needed, it will go Yes access.

I am not going to get into an argument with the one person supporting this rancher. It isn't about him being crooked, its about him thinking he can strong arm these hunters because f his financial status. I 100% support working as hard as you want to be as rich as you want. Just don;t use that money o squeeze the heads of your fellowman!

We need this win for all of us that hunt public lands!

Weird, another comment about his money!

I didn't say I support the rancher 100%. I said I didn't believe he was owed that much in damages and I said that you can sue someone for devaluation of your land. So he has a chance. The decision on corner crossing was already determined, so everyone still whining about that is just that. A whiner. Some comments on the other thread where I posted this damage claim article again called for eminent domain to take from this ranch owner and give to the public. Once again, that's Socialism. So if that's what you favor in order to get your precious little hunting spot then I don't blame private landowners for a second when they deny people the opportunity to hunt. Enjoy yourselves. Empty your bank account for these hunters and send it to GoFundMe as well. 

So you are just straight up anti public lands. Got it.

[LDennis24]

"You have continuously ignored the fact that no one cares about their money because the issue is about public access. Its honestly getting tiresome to hear your proclamations that the issue is other people's jealousy. Its lazy argument dude."

The start of this thread and the article posted was about monetary claims (money). Not the right to enter the public land. That was already established by the other ruling. You can go there and corner cross till your legs fall off. This is about money now. Maybe you should have actually read the article? Don't be jealous that this guy has way more hunting opportunities than you ever will... And 💰💵   After all, the jealousy makes you seem weak. 

You continue to mischaracterize what the rest of us are saying.

You can disagree with what the rest of us are saying, but your arguments are disingenuous.   
It makes you seem weak.   

I didn't mis characterize anything. You say the rest of us, meaning all the other comments? Well some people are posting about how much money he has. So try again. And if this isn't about money, what is it about? Not the right to access the land. That was already determined. So is it just about continual whining over the situation? My argument is genuine, maybe it's just above your comprehension. You guys focus on one particular part of someone's statement and go with it. It's called confirmation bias.

[LDennis24]

On another note - everyone go give $20 to $50 to these guys. If it is more than needed, it will go Yes access.

I am not going to get into an argument with the one person supporting this rancher. It isn't about him being crooked, its about him thinking he can strong arm these hunters because f his financial status. I 100% support working as hard as you want to be as rich as you want. Just don;t use that money o squeeze the heads of your fellowman!

We need this win for all of us that hunt public lands!

Weird, another comment about his money!

I didn't say I support the rancher 100%. I said I didn't believe he was owed that much in damages and I said that you can sue someone for devaluation of your land. So he has a chance. The decision on corner crossing was already determined, so everyone still whining about that is just that. A whiner. Some comments on the other thread where I posted this damage claim article again called for eminent domain to take from this ranch owner and give to the public. Once again, that's Socialism. So if that's what you favor in order to get your precious little hunting spot then I don't blame private landowners for a second when they deny people the opportunity to hunt. Enjoy yourselves. Empty your bank account for these hunters and send it to GoFundMe as well. 

So you are just straight up anti public lands. Got it.

No I am straight up you cannot have what you didn't earn. And you cannot take from a private landowner. I would never support a law that undermined public land access. NEVER! So again, I do not support the people saying, "Well you could just take ten feet of his land away for access." Sounds like something Joe Biden would support though. I don't get it? Can someone highlight where I said I was straight up anti public lands? Or am I being mischaracterized?

[Platensek-po]

On another note - everyone go give $20 to $50 to these guys. If it is more than needed, it will go Yes access.

I am not going to get into an argument with the one person supporting this rancher. It isn't about him being crooked, its about him thinking he can strong arm these hunters because f his financial status. I 100% support working as hard as you want to be as rich as you want. Just don;t use that money o squeeze the heads of your fellowman!

We need this win for all of us that hunt public lands!

Weird, another comment about his money!

I didn't say I support the rancher 100%. I said I didn't believe he was owed that much in damages and I said that you can sue someone for devaluation of your land. So he has a chance. The decision on corner crossing was already determined, so everyone still whining about that is just that. A whiner. Some comments on the other thread where I posted this damage claim article again called for eminent domain to take from this ranch owner and give to the public. Once again, that's Socialism. So if that's what you favor in order to get your precious little hunting spot then I don't blame private landowners for a second when they deny people the opportunity to hunt. Enjoy yourselves. Empty your bank account for these hunters and send it to GoFundMe as well. 

So you are just straight up anti public lands. Got it.

No I am straight up you cannot have what you didn't earn. And you cannot take from a private landowner. I would never support a law that undermined public land access. NEVER! So again, I do not support the people saying, "Well you could just take ten feet of his land away for access." Sounds like something Joe Biden would support though. I don't get it? Can someone highlight where I said I was straight up anti public lands? Or am I being mischaracterized?

Oh my bad thought you were anti socialism. Since public lands are a socialist program I assumed you were against them. How did you think we got public lands in the first place other than the government just saying this now belongs to the people? So if you are for private land owners keeping people off of public lands, you support the rich and powerful using their resources to screw over the common man and say you hate socialism. Since you hate socialism so much I assumed you hated police, firefighters, public roads, public schools, and the myriad of other socialist programs the state runs.

[LDennis24]

On another note - everyone go give $20 to $50 to these guys. If it is more than needed, it will go Yes access.

I am not going to get into an argument with the one person supporting this rancher. It isn't about him being crooked, its about him thinking he can strong arm these hunters because f his financial status. I 100% support working as hard as you want to be as rich as you want. Just don;t use that money o squeeze the heads of your fellowman!

We need this win for all of us that hunt public lands!

Weird, another comment about his money!

I didn't say I support the rancher 100%. I said I didn't believe he was owed that much in damages and I said that you can sue someone for devaluation of your land. So he has a chance. The decision on corner crossing was already determined, so everyone still whining about that is just that. A whiner. Some comments on the other thread where I posted this damage claim article again called for eminent domain to take from this ranch owner and give to the public. Once again, that's Socialism. So if that's what you favor in order to get your precious little hunting spot then I don't blame private landowners for a second when they deny people the opportunity to hunt. Enjoy yourselves. Empty your bank account for these hunters and send it to GoFundMe as well. 

So you are just straight up anti public lands. Got it.

No I am straight up you cannot have what you didn't earn. And you cannot take from a private landowner. I would never support a law that undermined public land access. NEVER! So again, I do not support the people saying, "Well you could just take ten feet of his land away for access." Sounds like something Joe Biden would support though. I don't get it? Can someone highlight where I said I was straight up anti public lands? Or am I being mischaracterized?

Oh my bad thought you were anti socialism. Since public lands are a socialist program I assumed you were against them. How did you think we got public lands in the first place other than the government just saying this now belongs to the people? So if you are for private land owners keeping people off of public lands, you support the rich and powerful using their resources to screw over the common man and say you hate socialism. Since you hate socialism so much I assumed you hated police, firefighters, public roads, public schools, and the myriad of other socialist programs the state runs.

Mischaracterizing.... 🤔

[Platensek-po]

On another note - everyone go give $20 to $50 to these guys. If it is more than needed, it will go Yes access.

I am not going to get into an argument with the one person supporting this rancher. It isn't about him being crooked, its about him thinking he can strong arm these hunters because f his financial status. I 100% support working as hard as you want to be as rich as you want. Just don;t use that money o squeeze the heads of your fellowman!

We need this win for all of us that hunt public lands!

Weird, another comment about his money!

I didn't say I support the rancher 100%. I said I didn't believe he was owed that much in damages and I said that you can sue someone for devaluation of your land. So he has a chance. The decision on corner crossing was already determined, so everyone still whining about that is just that. A whiner. Some comments on the other thread where I posted this damage claim article again called for eminent domain to take from this ranch owner and give to the public. Once again, that's Socialism. So if that's what you favor in order to get your precious little hunting spot then I don't blame private landowners for a second when they deny people the opportunity to hunt. Enjoy yourselves. Empty your bank account for these hunters and send it to GoFundMe as well. 

So you are just straight up anti public lands. Got it.

No I am straight up you cannot have what you didn't earn. And you cannot take from a private landowner. I would never support a law that undermined public land access. NEVER! So again, I do not support the people saying, "Well you could just take ten feet of his land away for access." Sounds like something Joe Biden would support though. I don't get it? Can someone highlight where I said I was straight up anti public lands? Or am I being mischaracterized?

No you just can’t seem to grasp that people don’t hate him because he has money, we really strongly disagree that just because he has money he can screw over the public. You seem to think that having money makes you above everyone else and should allow you to just be an ahole. It’s a strange way of thinking that only you seem to have.

[Platensek-po]

On another note - everyone go give $20 to $50 to these guys. If it is more than needed, it will go Yes access.

I am not going to get into an argument with the one person supporting this rancher. It isn't about him being crooked, its about him thinking he can strong arm these hunters because f his financial status. I 100% support working as hard as you want to be as rich as you want. Just don;t use that money o squeeze the heads of your fellowman!

We need this win for all of us that hunt public lands!

Weird, another comment about his money!

I didn't say I support the rancher 100%. I said I didn't believe he was owed that much in damages and I said that you can sue someone for devaluation of your land. So he has a chance. The decision on corner crossing was already determined, so everyone still whining about that is just that. A whiner. Some comments on the other thread where I posted this damage claim article again called for eminent domain to take from this ranch owner and give to the public. Once again, that's Socialism. So if that's what you favor in order to get your precious little hunting spot then I don't blame private landowners for a second when they deny people the opportunity to hunt. Enjoy yourselves. Empty your bank account for these hunters and send it to GoFundMe as well. 

So you are just straight up anti public lands. Got it.

No I am straight up you cannot have what you didn't earn. And you cannot take from a private landowner. I would never support a law that undermined public land access. NEVER! So again, I do not support the people saying, "Well you could just take ten feet of his land away for access." Sounds like something Joe Biden would support though. I don't get it? Can someone highlight where I said I was straight up anti public lands? Or am I being mischaracterized?

Oh my bad thought you were anti socialism. Since public lands are a socialist program I assumed you were against them. How did you think we got public lands in the first place other than the government just saying this now belongs to the people? So if you are for private land owners keeping people off of public lands, you support the rich and powerful using their resources to screw over the common man and say you hate socialism. Since you hate socialism so much I assumed you hated police, firefighters, public roads, public schools, and the myriad of other socialist programs the state runs.

Mischaracterizing.... 🤔

How? Didn’t you say that the government taking land for the public is socialism and bad?

[cem3434]

Uh oh....you got him on the ropes. 

[fishngamereaper]

Thought the criminal courts said no one took anything from the landowner...

So now he's throwing a fit and trying the easier way in civil court by flexing his financial muscle and trying to bankrupt some hunter's from out of State...
Ya that's mature....sounds like a bully to me..

[jrebel]

On another note - everyone go give $20 to $50 to these guys. If it is more than needed, it will go Yes access.

I am not going to get into an argument with the one person supporting this rancher. It isn't about him being crooked, its about him thinking he can strong arm these hunters because f his financial status. I 100% support working as hard as you want to be as rich as you want. Just don;t use that money o squeeze the heads of your fellowman!

We need this win for all of us that hunt public lands!

Weird, another comment about his money!

I didn't say I support the rancher 100%. I said I didn't believe he was owed that much in damages and I said that you can sue someone for devaluation of your land. So he has a chance. The decision on corner crossing was already determined, so everyone still whining about that is just that. A whiner. Some comments on the other thread where I posted this damage claim article again called for eminent domain to take from this ranch owner and give to the public. Once again, that's Socialism. So if that's what you favor in order to get your precious little hunting spot then I don't blame private landowners for a second when they deny people the opportunity to hunt. Enjoy yourselves. Empty your bank account for these hunters and send it to GoFundMe as well. 

So you are just straight up anti public lands. Got it.

No I am straight up you cannot have what you didn't earn. And you cannot take from a private landowner. I would never support a law that undermined public land access. NEVER! So again, I do not support the people saying, "Well you could just take ten feet of his land away for access." Sounds like something Joe Biden would support though. I don't get it? Can someone highlight where I said I was straight up anti public lands? Or am I being mischaracterized?

Oh my bad thought you were anti socialism. Since public lands are a socialist program I assumed you were against them. How did you think we got public lands in the first place other than the government just saying this now belongs to the people? So if you are for private land owners keeping people off of public lands, you support the rich and powerful using their resources to screw over the common man and say you hate socialism. Since you hate socialism so much I assumed you hated police, firefighters, public roads, public schools, and the myriad of other socialist programs the state runs.

Been keeping up with all these threads and trying not to comment.  I see both sides of the argument.....and is with most arguments / topics there is likely a middle ground.  With that said.....your last statement is a far stretch from reality.  That would be like saying you can't be anti VAX...if you believe COVID is real, when in doubt a person can believe COVID is real and still be anti VAX for other legitimate reasons. 

Just because someone does not agree with taking land away from a private land owner to grant access to public land.....does not make them a socialist / or not (to be honest, I'm not sure what argument you are making here).  It also does not imply a person is anti public service.   I just think you are making a faulty argument that if you are one....you can't be the other, when in doubt that is simply not the case. 

And for the record.....I don't necessarily agree with the landowner suing for damages.  I also don't agree that a (not necessarily the one suing) landowner should be forced to give up 1" of their land to grant access to public land that is landlocked.  Find another way....but don't take away from a guy that has purchased his land with hard earned money to appease the masses.  Blame who you want......don't blame the landowner.  If the law is no corner crossing....change the law.