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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2022, 11:25:56 PM »
Don’t give up. If you’re new at hunting and especially elk hunting, being alone by yourself, not seeing elk, it’s really easy to talk yourself into packing up and heading home.   Your tired, footsore, want a pizza, shower, no elk, poor weather, and you think about things and home and pretty soon, you’re loaded up and cruising, then you start kicking yourself. 


     Don’t give up. Think about pleasant thoughts. Try to have fun. Bring a good book.  Waking up late and hitting the woods a little bit late still beats driving home.  Elk are supposed to be hard to hunt. Don’t get discouraged. Even though they are hard to find , sometimes they do the danmdest dumbest things and bang ya got em pilgrim.   Don’t starve yourself. Eat good food. Don’t feel like you have to camp waaay back of beyond. Have some beers around the fire. Enjoy yourself. Just don’t give up.
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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2022, 12:24:25 AM »
Don’t give up. If you’re new at hunting and especially elk hunting, being alone by yourself, not seeing elk, it’s really easy to talk yourself into packing up and heading home.   Your tired, footsore, want a pizza, shower, no elk, poor weather, and you think about things and home and pretty soon, you’re loaded up and cruising, then you start kicking yourself. 


     Don’t give up. Think about pleasant thoughts. Try to have fun. Bring a good book.  Waking up late and hitting the woods a little bit late still beats driving home.

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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2022, 05:20:56 AM »
The advice to always be ready is great advice. I often see elk in the areas I expect to see elk. But it’s easy to get in a hurry to make it to those areas and I often see elk when I’m least expecting and prepared for them, as well. I still know my day is best spent in known elk areas and working through lesser areas quickly is the best way to do that. But stay focused.

One of my first painful lesson was to make sure to find a good rest as soon as you are in elk. Standing there trying to shoot off hand cost me one of my first bulls a long time ago. For many years after that, as soon as I was in animals, finding a rest was a priority for me. I don’t think it ever cost me an animal and I got a few that probably would have gotten away without a rest. As I have become more confident and competent, I’m a little more willing to take a quick shot without a rest and last years bill is one of the only ones I can think of that would have gotten away if I hesitated. I’m sure you’ll be extra excited in your first couple encounters and highly suggest finding a good rest.

Someone mentioned this above, but hunt with a day pack capable of packing out at least a head or front quarter. My hunting partners and I all do this- it really cuts down on the pack out process if you can comfortably get half the elk out on the first trip. I use an Exo Mountain pack.


Don’t leave elk to find elk and looking for and hunting on tons of sign sound like good archery mantras or ways to kill small bulls in rifle season. Later in the year, the majority of big bulls are as far away from herds and people as they can get. If you want to kill a big bull, you might literally have to leave the herds you are on to go find them. If you’re in an area that is obviously holding a lot of elk there’s a good chance it’s not also holding a mature bull late in the year. I have killed a lot of bulls during rifle season in herds- all young raghorn three and four points. The biggest bulls I have killed were all definitively away from the herds. Obviously, if you’re spike hunting, focus on herd areas. A single animal is harder to find but much easier to kill when you do. Identifying and getting a shot at the bull in a herd can be tough. And that’s a lot of watching eyes, also.

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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2022, 05:30:10 AM »
Advice is to not wait 20 years before you switch to archery! More cool experiences in 4 years than 2 decades of rifle.

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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2022, 05:37:19 AM »
Be ready to process an animal the size of a medium sized horse....  Bags, knives (sharpener), physical conditioning, 550 cord, etc. 

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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2022, 10:50:00 AM »
Yeah, I made a snide comment on here before to leave your weapon at home.  In truth my first 2-3 years rifle hunting and my first 2-3 year bow hunting, I didn't even draw or fire a shot.  But don't actually leave your weapon home.  Here are some helpful tips that people here have largely covered.

1) If you find elk, especially a legal elk, HUNT IT.  I don't care if its across a canyon, up high, down low... sometimes late in the season you're like "ugh, there's an elk, but it'll probably be gone by the time I get there" or some crap like that.  Just think of how long you spend wandering through the woods without and elk near you.  If you know there's elk somewhere, HUNT IT, I don't care how hard it is.  Every time I've thought "that'd be an impossible place to kill an elk, but I know they're in there" I've had opportunities.

2) Elk are REALLY good at pinpointing sound.  They are risk adverse like humans.  You're probably not going to call them into the middle of an opening.  They're going to peak their head JUST up over the hill, or through the brush, looking for that call.  So, if you make a call, MOVE UP so you can get a shot where they'll stop (if you're hunting solo).  If you want to call before you sit down for lunch... call... move up 50 yards and then eat lunch.  Never sit where you call from, just don't do it. 

3) In order of importance, things that sink you are 1) smell 2) sight 3) sound.  If an elk sees you and you're still... even if you could magically be breaking branches while you sat still, they wouldn't care.  They might walk right up to you.  They don't recognize the human figure well and are not bothered by it.  You can make noise in the woods, but I'd try to cover with cow calls.  When elk are at ease they make TONS of noise.  They will catch you if you're moving and they aren't, so try to move slowly.  All that said, if they smell you from close or from far, they're GONE.  Wind, wind, wind.  I don't care if you rolled in elk urine, you'll just smell like a human who rolled in elk piss to them.  I don't care if you have sent lock, washed yourself in scent free soap, and have been eating elk turds, they'll still smell you.  If your wind is bad, the walk you're about to do is pointless, the elk will be gone before you can see them.  I've had an elk walk up to me, standing in wide open timber, within 5 yards, and she didn't spook until I felt the wind on the back of my neck and watched her nostrils flare. 

4) Despite what people have said here... you can pursue spooked elk, as long as they didn't smell you.  The larger herds in western wa are particularly easy to follow as they make a hellova trail and chasing them down is really not that difficult if you have a cow tag.  If you spook an elk with your truck, GO IN AFTER THEM, they won't be too far into the timber.  I have had really good luck pursuing elk, just as long as they haven't smelled you.

5) Be patient, its not usually like the hunting shows. They can come in silent, especially in wolf country.  Move slowly... sound wont kill you, but they'll stop moving and look your way if you're noisy and the movement will be quickly picked up by them.  Try to use a cow call to cover you when you move. 

6) I don't worry about over-calling.  When they're interested in you, you can blow that cow call every 3 min and they're not going to run away.  I'm not saying you need to, but if you're walking through the woods making noise, use that thing.

7) I'm probably just a bad bugler, but I've never been able to get a bull fired up enough to come to a bugle, but shot 3 coming in to cow calls... two of them on an absolute string.  I might just be very seductive sounding, but there's more than one way to get a bull to come in.

8) Make a plan for success, getting these things out is no joke.  Last thing I want is to get a bull down, 4 miles in, with no knives, game bags, or pack that is usable.  Having to take an empty trip back because you dont have what you need is dumb.  If archery hunting have tracking tape or similar.

9) GET THE HEAT OUT.  You cannot leave elk overnight.  I honestly don't care if its 5 degrees out.  The snow you see collecting on their back illustrates how well insulated they are.  The ball joints of the hip WILL SOUR if left overnight.  I call 100% BS on the people who say "left it overnight, no bone sour"  They don't know what bone sour is.  Now that I've experienced a bad case of this, I now know how many mild cases of bone sour I've had.  I will never shoot another bull where I DONT pop the femur out before I pack it out, even if I get right to it.  Now that I know the smell well, I'd say 75%+ of my bulls have had some degree of bone sour right at the femur, even when I've been able to get right on them.  It just takes too long to get them cut up and out and isn't worth losing that meat. If any cut ever smells even slightly "cheesy"... that is bone sour and I think its WAY more common than anyone realizes.  The butcher wont tell you that, and you really wont know unless you process your own game.

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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2022, 11:23:07 AM »
Elk are loud. Very loud. Use your ears and recognize you hear better standing still. But when you do move you can get away with a good amount of noise, at least compared to deer hunting.

Also, measure your expectations but be prepared for success.

I am mostly a deer hunter but rifle hunted elk a few times, always saw animals but never a legal one. I switched to bow last year with low expectations but excited to have the opportunity at a cow and just to learn. I shot a cow 1 hour in on my first day hunting. Solo... 4 miles behind a gate in an area I rifle hunted that you used to be able to drive to. Heard cow calls in a canyon below me and located a small group. I could not believe it but I was able to close from 150 yards to 25 in waist deep salal. Didn't rush it, cow called every once in a while and I think they thought I was another elk. I have never been more sore in my life than the next morning after getting her out.

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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2022, 02:40:51 PM »
Yeah, I made a snide comment on here before to leave your weapon at home.  In truth my first 2-3 years rifle hunting and my first 2-3 year bow hunting, I didn't even draw or fire a shot.  But don't actually leave your weapon home.  Here are some helpful tips that people here have largely covered.

1) If you find elk, especially a legal elk, HUNT IT.  I don't care if its across a canyon, up high, down low... sometimes late in the season you're like "ugh, there's an elk, but it'll probably be gone by the time I get there" or some crap like that.  Just think of how long you spend wandering through the woods without and elk near you.  If you know there's elk somewhere, HUNT IT, I don't care how hard it is.  Every time I've thought "that'd be an impossible place to kill an elk, but I know they're in there" I've had opportunities.

2) Elk are REALLY good at pinpointing sound.  They are risk adverse like humans.  You're probably not going to call them into the middle of an opening.  They're going to peak their head JUST up over the hill, or through the brush, looking for that call.  So, if you make a call, MOVE UP so you can get a shot where they'll stop (if you're hunting solo).  If you want to call before you sit down for lunch... call... move up 50 yards and then eat lunch.  Never sit where you call from, just don't do it. 

3) In order of importance, things that sink you are 1) smell 2) sight 3) sound.  If an elk sees you and you're still... even if you could magically be breaking branches while you sat still, they wouldn't care.  They might walk right up to you.  They don't recognize the human figure well and are not bothered by it.  You can make noise in the woods, but I'd try to cover with cow calls.  When elk are at ease they make TONS of noise.  They will catch you if you're moving and they aren't, so try to move slowly.  All that said, if they smell you from close or from far, they're GONE.  Wind, wind, wind.  I don't care if you rolled in elk urine, you'll just smell like a human who rolled in elk piss to them.  I don't care if you have sent lock, washed yourself in scent free soap, and have been eating elk turds, they'll still smell you.  If your wind is bad, the walk you're about to do is pointless, the elk will be gone before you can see them.  I've had an elk walk up to me, standing in wide open timber, within 5 yards, and she didn't spook until I felt the wind on the back of my neck and watched her nostrils flare. 

4) Despite what people have said here... you can pursue spooked elk, as long as they didn't smell you.  The larger herds in western wa are particularly easy to follow as they make a hellova trail and chasing them down is really not that difficult if you have a cow tag.  If you spook an elk with your truck, GO IN AFTER THEM, they won't be too far into the timber.  I have had really good luck pursuing elk, just as long as they haven't smelled you.

5) Be patient, its not usually like the hunting shows. They can come in silent, especially in wolf country.  Move slowly... sound wont kill you, but they'll stop moving and look your way if you're noisy and the movement will be quickly picked up by them.  Try to use a cow call to cover you when you move. 

6) I don't worry about over-calling.  When they're interested in you, you can blow that cow call every 3 min and they're not going to run away.  I'm not saying you need to, but if you're walking through the woods making noise, use that thing.

7) I'm probably just a bad bugler, but I've never been able to get a bull fired up enough to come to a bugle, but shot 3 coming in to cow calls... two of them on an absolute string.  I might just be very seductive sounding, but there's more than one way to get a bull to come in.

8) Make a plan for success, getting these things out is no joke.  Last thing I want is to get a bull down, 4 miles in, with no knives, game bags, or pack that is usable.  Having to take an empty trip back because you dont have what you need is dumb.  If archery hunting have tracking tape or similar.

9) GET THE HEAT OUT.  You cannot leave elk overnight.  I honestly don't care if its 5 degrees out.  The snow you see collecting on their back illustrates how well insulated they are.  The ball joints of the hip WILL SOUR if left overnight.  I call 100% BS on the people who say "left it overnight, no bone sour"  They don't know what bone sour is.  Now that I've experienced a bad case of this, I now know how many mild cases of bone sour I've had.  I will never shoot another bull where I DONT pop the femur out before I pack it out, even if I get right to it.  Now that I know the smell well, I'd say 75%+ of my bulls have had some degree of bone sour right at the femur, even when I've been able to get right on them.  It just takes too long to get them cut up and out and isn't worth losing that meat. If any cut ever smells even slightly "cheesy"... that is bone sour and I think its WAY more common than anyone realizes.  The butcher wont tell you that, and you really wont know unless you process your own game.
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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2022, 04:49:43 PM »
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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2022, 11:07:59 PM »
Yeah, I made a snide comment on here before to leave your weapon at home.  In truth my first 2-3 years rifle hunting and my first 2-3 year bow hunting, I didn't even draw or fire a shot.  But don't actually leave your weapon home.  Here are some helpful tips that people here have largely covered.

1) If you find elk, especially a legal elk, HUNT IT.  I don't care if its across a canyon, up high, down low... sometimes late in the season you're like "ugh, there's an elk, but it'll probably be gone by the time I get there" or some crap like that.  Just think of how long you spend wandering through the woods without and elk near you.  If you know there's elk somewhere, HUNT IT, I don't care how hard it is.  Every time I've thought "that'd be an impossible place to kill an elk, but I know they're in there" I've had opportunities.
 
Absolutely spot on. No need for me to comment now.
2) Elk are REALLY good at pinpointing sound.  They are risk adverse like humans.  You're probably not going to call them into the middle of an opening.  They're going to peak their head JUST up over the hill, or through the brush, looking for that call.  So, if you make a call, MOVE UP so you can get a shot where they'll stop (if you're hunting solo).  If you want to call before you sit down for lunch... call... move up 50 yards and then eat lunch.  Never sit where you call from, just don't do it. 

3) In order of importance, things that sink you are 1) smell 2) sight 3) sound.  If an elk sees you and you're still... even if you could magically be breaking branches while you sat still, they wouldn't care.  They might walk right up to you.  They don't recognize the human figure well and are not bothered by it.  You can make noise in the woods, but I'd try to cover with cow calls.  When elk are at ease they make TONS of noise.  They will catch you if you're moving and they aren't, so try to move slowly.  All that said, if they smell you from close or from far, they're GONE.  Wind, wind, wind.  I don't care if you rolled in elk urine, you'll just smell like a human who rolled in elk piss to them.  I don't care if you have sent lock, washed yourself in scent free soap, and have been eating elk turds, they'll still smell you.  If your wind is bad, the walk you're about to do is pointless, the elk will be gone before you can see them.  I've had an elk walk up to me, standing in wide open timber, within 5 yards, and she didn't spook until I felt the wind on the back of my neck and watched her nostrils flare. 

4) Despite what people have said here... you can pursue spooked elk, as long as they didn't smell you.  The larger herds in western wa are particularly easy to follow as they make a hellova trail and chasing them down is really not that difficult if you have a cow tag.  If you spook an elk with your truck, GO IN AFTER THEM, they won't be too far into the timber.  I have had really good luck pursuing elk, just as long as they haven't smelled you.

5) Be patient, its not usually like the hunting shows. They can come in silent, especially in wolf country.  Move slowly... sound wont kill you, but they'll stop moving and look your way if you're noisy and the movement will be quickly picked up by them.  Try to use a cow call to cover you when you move. 

6) I don't worry about over-calling.  When they're interested in you, you can blow that cow call every 3 min and they're not going to run away.  I'm not saying you need to, but if you're walking through the woods making noise, use that thing.

7) I'm probably just a bad bugler, but I've never been able to get a bull fired up enough to come to a bugle, but shot 3 coming in to cow calls... two of them on an absolute string.  I might just be very seductive sounding, but there's more than one way to get a bull to come in.

8) Make a plan for success, getting these things out is no joke.  Last thing I want is to get a bull down, 4 miles in, with no knives, game bags, or pack that is usable.  Having to take an empty trip back because you dont have what you need is dumb.  If archery hunting have tracking tape or similar.

9) GET THE HEAT OUT.  You cannot leave elk overnight.  I honestly don't care if its 5 degrees out.  The snow you see collecting on their back illustrates how well insulated they are.  The ball joints of the hip WILL SOUR if left overnight.  I call 100% BS on the people who say "left it overnight, no bone sour"  They don't know what bone sour is.  Now that I've experienced a bad case of this, I now know how many mild cases of bone sour I've had.  I will never shoot another bull where I DONT pop the femur out before I pack it out, even if I get right to it.  Now that I know the smell well, I'd say 75%+ of my bulls have had some degree of bone sour right at the femur, even when I've been able to get right on them.  It just takes too long to get them cut up and out and isn't worth losing that meat. If any cut ever smells even slightly "cheesy"... that is bone sour and I think its WAY more common than anyone realizes.  The butcher wont tell you that, and you really wont know unless you process your own game.

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« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2022, 09:07:48 AM »
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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2022, 09:08:17 AM »
Yeah, I made a snide comment on here before to leave your weapon at home.  In truth my first 2-3 years rifle hunting and my first 2-3 year bow hunting, I didn't even draw or fire a shot.  But don't actually leave your weapon home.  Here are some helpful tips that people here have largely covered.

1) If you find elk, especially a legal elk, HUNT IT.  I don't care if its across a canyon, up high, down low... sometimes late in the season you're like "ugh, there's an elk, but it'll probably be gone by the time I get there" or some crap like that.  Just think of how long you spend wandering through the woods without and elk near you.  If you know there's elk somewhere, HUNT IT, I don't care how hard it is.  Every time I've thought "that'd be an impossible place to kill an elk, but I know they're in there" I've had opportunities.

2) Elk are REALLY good at pinpointing sound.  They are risk adverse like humans.  You're probably not going to call them into the middle of an opening.  They're going to peak their head JUST up over the hill, or through the brush, looking for that call.  So, if you make a call, MOVE UP so you can get a shot where they'll stop (if you're hunting solo).  If you want to call before you sit down for lunch... call... move up 50 yards and then eat lunch.  Never sit where you call from, just don't do it. 

3) In order of importance, things that sink you are 1) smell 2) sight 3) sound.  If an elk sees you and you're still... even if you could magically be breaking branches while you sat still, they wouldn't care.  They might walk right up to you.  They don't recognize the human figure well and are not bothered by it.  You can make noise in the woods, but I'd try to cover with cow calls.  When elk are at ease they make TONS of noise.  They will catch you if you're moving and they aren't, so try to move slowly.  All that said, if they smell you from close or from far, they're GONE.  Wind, wind, wind.  I don't care if you rolled in elk urine, you'll just smell like a human who rolled in elk piss to them.  I don't care if you have sent lock, washed yourself in scent free soap, and have been eating elk turds, they'll still smell you.  If your wind is bad, the walk you're about to do is pointless, the elk will be gone before you can see them.  I've had an elk walk up to me, standing in wide open timber, within 5 yards, and she didn't spook until I felt the wind on the back of my neck and watched her nostrils flare. 

4) Despite what people have said here... you can pursue spooked elk, as long as they didn't smell you.  The larger herds in western wa are particularly easy to follow as they make a hellova trail and chasing them down is really not that difficult if you have a cow tag.  If you spook an elk with your truck, GO IN AFTER THEM, they won't be too far into the timber.  I have had really good luck pursuing elk, just as long as they haven't smelled you.

5) Be patient, its not usually like the hunting shows. They can come in silent, especially in wolf country.  Move slowly... sound wont kill you, but they'll stop moving and look your way if you're noisy and the movement will be quickly picked up by them.  Try to use a cow call to cover you when you move. 

6) I don't worry about over-calling.  When they're interested in you, you can blow that cow call every 3 min and they're not going to run away.  I'm not saying you need to, but if you're walking through the woods making noise, use that thing.

7) I'm probably just a bad bugler, but I've never been able to get a bull fired up enough to come to a bugle, but shot 3 coming in to cow calls... two of them on an absolute string.  I might just be very seductive sounding, but there's more than one way to get a bull to come in.

8) Make a plan for success, getting these things out is no joke.  Last thing I want is to get a bull down, 4 miles in, with no knives, game bags, or pack that is usable.  Having to take an empty trip back because you dont have what you need is dumb.  If archery hunting have tracking tape or similar.

9) GET THE HEAT OUT.  You cannot leave elk overnight.  I honestly don't care if its 5 degrees out.  The snow you see collecting on their back illustrates how well insulated they are.  The ball joints of the hip WILL SOUR if left overnight.  I call 100% BS on the people who say "left it overnight, no bone sour"  They don't know what bone sour is.  Now that I've experienced a bad case of this, I now know how many mild cases of bone sour I've had.  I will never shoot another bull where I DONT pop the femur out before I pack it out, even if I get right to it.  Now that I know the smell well, I'd say 75%+ of my bulls have had some degree of bone sour right at the femur, even when I've been able to get right on them.  It just takes too long to get them cut up and out and isn't worth losing that meat. If any cut ever smells even slightly "cheesy"... that is bone sour and I think its WAY more common than anyone realizes.  The butcher wont tell you that, and you really wont know unless you process your own game.

Solid advice. Will keep this in mind this fall. Thank you for sharing!
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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2022, 07:08:12 AM »
Don't be afraid to make some noise. It's different from deer hunting where you have to sneak everywhere. Animals can tell the difference between a quiet animal and an animal trying to be quiet and not succeeding (us). Elk herds sound like tornados going through the thick stuff. Don't talk loud or raise voices, but if you crack a couple branches don't sweat it, just cover with a cow call. I know people who's preferred method of killing elk is walking straight at a herd breaking branches and cow calling (provided you're in thick country and they cant see you until you're in bow range).

Moral of the story, noise isn't quite as important on an elk hunt as it is a deer hunt, especially if you're in the thick stuff and worried about being too loud.
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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2022, 10:21:44 AM »
Be aware of your scenario. I would not make noise stalking a solo bull which is a  very real scenario in gun season. Elk in HERDS make a helluva a racket, and essentially ignore noise.( Like a party. ) Elk solo or pairs, but adjacent to other elk, will generally not spook at elky noise, but will want to know who the company is. Very elky sounds important in this scenario. (Company comes to your house, not unexpected.) A solo bull is solo for a reason, and will not tolerate any noise at all. If he doesnt blow he will be on high alert. Even elk sounds may move him depending on his tolerance level. ( someone comes your house, and you know your alone and not expecting anyone.)

  Just some context. Reading thru the comments almost sounds like you can just stomp up on em.

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Re: This is going to be my first elk season -- what are things you wish you knew?
« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2022, 12:32:40 PM »
I wish I knew Weyerhaeuser was going to close their lands opening day.

 


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