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LED Headlight bulbs
« on: January 09, 2023, 05:16:33 PM »
Looking to upgrade jeep wranglers.
Any experience with them? Still trying to figure out whats good/bad, and read a bit about flickering and radio disturbance.
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2023, 05:22:32 PM »
They are awesome, so much better than even the upgraded regular ones.

I've used these and have been happy, not sure if they fit your rig or not.  You might need to order a larger dust cap as well, not sure about Jeeps.

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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2023, 05:31:33 PM »
I changed the headlights on my Frontier to these:

KATANA Fanless 9007 LED Headlight Bulbs | 12000LM 60W Wireless HB5 All-in-One Conversion Kit | PHI Chips Super Bright 6500K Xenon White Halogen Replacement $32 on Amazon.

I know there was about a year of try and fail before the Frontier Forum determined wich sets worked best for the Frontier.
You might want to search around in the Jeep Forums for the versions they recommend.
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2023, 06:22:29 PM »
Be warned, they suck if it is snowing hard.  They don't get hot enough to melt it off the lenses. 

x2 on the Katans.  I have them in several rigs.

No mater which bulb you get, make sure and orient them the right way.   Otherwise they will not throw the beams correctly..
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2023, 06:27:04 PM »
Are led lights a straight swap?
Nothing special needed to put them in?
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2023, 06:49:28 PM »
Quote from: NOCK NOCK link=topic=276455.msg3756084# :twocents:msg3756084 date=1673313393
 
Looking to upgrade jeep wranglers.
Any experience with them? Still trying to figure out whats good/bad, and read a bit about flickering and radio disturbance.
I put the kc headlights in my 16. I didn’t have any radio interference. They are expensive lights and bright as hell. You get what you pay for. There are a lot of lights out there for the jeeps in the 200 range and they just don’t last. The one thing you’re gonna wanna buy is the lights that have a heating element in the lens. As the led lights do not put off heat. I was coming over blewett early one morning in the dark and it was dumping wet snow. They covered up in a hurry and the only lights I had were from the guy behind me. But what ever you decide do not go cheap.
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2023, 06:52:25 PM »
Depends on the rig.  Some of them need a ballast too.  Should be info out on the web on your specific make and what others have done. 

My daughters 2001 Ford Escape does not like to turn high beams off if you have the factory fog lights on, even with adding a ballast.
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2023, 06:55:53 PM »
Depends on the rig.  Some of them need a ballast too.  Should be info out on the web on your specific make and what others have done. 

My daughters 2001 Ford Escape does not like to turn high beams off if you have the factory fog lights on, even with adding a ballast.

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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2023, 06:56:17 PM »
Something like this
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2023, 08:42:55 PM »
Go online and get ahold of Headlight Revolution.  Call them and they will help out with what you want to do and will provide the parts and expertise needed.  I switched out my headlights on my 2015 3/4 ton GMC and have been more than satisfied.  Plus what they sold my had lifetime replacement warranty, so i just get ahold of them and they send me replacement components.
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2023, 12:15:13 PM »
Are you considering installing an entire reflector assembly or just an LED bulb in an incandescent assembly?

LEDs do not work in incandescent assemblies.

No matter what the vendor or others say about how amazing they are, they're not.

LEDs scatter badly, the whiter the light, the worse they are in rain and fog(trust me, yellow tint is much better than the white/blue that everyone is trying to copy), and they just suck for other drivers who have to share the road with you.

You'd be much better off with a quality incandescent bulb if that's what you're thinking.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/led-lights.788725/#post-28236599

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-ultimate-headlight-upgrade-h4-not-led-or-hid.398066/

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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2023, 12:33:14 PM »
I don't know what they're like now but the headlights on my 08 Rubicon sucked something fierce!  I don't remember the name of the company I got them from but their kit replaced the whole headlight, they weren't LED bulbs, and the part of the wiring harness that plugged in to the headlamps back to the part of the wiring harness that section plugged into.  It made a, huge, difference over the factory headlights.

My daughter has a 2017 MKC and the headlights aren't very good so I'll have to look into that Headlight Revolution place and see if there's an easy fix to replace the bulbs with something better.

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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2023, 12:51:40 PM »
Properly installed and adjusted, my experience is that LED bulbs have much better beam control than halogen.  Glare and scatter were noticeably reduced.  Anyone that has messed with LED flashlights has probably noticed that that the beam has very distinct edges as opposed to incandescent bulbs that scatter much more.

Proper adjustment of the reflector as well as orientation of the LED bulb in one truck was much more critical than with halogen bulbs.

I've tried premium halogen bulbs and LED and the LED provided vastly superior lighting for night driving under all conditions.  I can't remember a time where I wished I had halogens.  The LEDs provided better distance lighting forward as well as side lighting.  Both my daughter and wife commented on how much better they can see with the LEDs.

One one truck, I had to simply adjust the assembly to maintain the same height on the beam cutoff, easy to do against a garage door.  Measure the top of the beam pattern with the stock bulbs, swap them and then adjust the assembly for the same beam height. 

On the other truck, the beam was very sensitive to the position of the bulb.  I installed them, then rotated the bulb until I found the best position for a crisp horizontal cutoff at the top of the beam and then adjusted for beam cutoff height.

Your results may vary, I can only speak for the two trucks I have messed with.  I also did not experiment with higher wattage halogens that require rewiring and additional relays due to the excessive current draw.  I compared LEDs with stock halogens as well as premium halogens that are compatible with stock wiring and relays.

The snow melting does seem to make logical sense, but I haven't experienced that issue and drove through a ton of snow every year with them.  I haven't noticed any snow or ice accumulation on the headlights.

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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2023, 01:05:34 PM »
Properly installed and adjusted, my experience is that LED bulbs have much better beam control than halogen.  Glare and scatter were noticeably reduced.  Anyone that has messed with LED flashlights has probably noticed that that the beam has very distinct edges as opposed to incandescent bulbs that scatter much more.

Proper adjustment of the reflector as well as orientation of the LED bulb in one truck was much more critical than with halogen bulbs.

I've tried premium halogen bulbs and LED and the LED provided vastly superior lighting for night driving under all conditions.  I can't remember a time where I wished I had halogens.  The LEDs provided better distance lighting forward as well as side lighting.  Both my daughter and wife commented on how much better they can see with the LEDs.

One one truck, I had to simply adjust the assembly to maintain the same height on the beam cutoff, easy to do against a garage door.  Measure the top of the beam pattern with the stock bulbs, swap them and then adjust the assembly for the same beam height. 

On the other truck, the beam was very sensitive to the position of the bulb.  I installed them, then rotated the bulb until I found the best position for a crisp horizontal cutoff at the top of the beam and then adjusted for beam cutoff height.

Your results may vary, I can only speak for the two trucks I have messed with.  I also did not experiment with higher wattage halogens that require rewiring and additional relays due to the excessive current draw.  I compared LEDs with stock halogens as well as premium halogens that are compatible with stock wiring and relays.

The snow melting does seem to make logical sense, but I haven't experienced that issue and drove through a ton of snow every year with them.  I haven't noticed any snow or ice accumulation on the headlights.
Your garage door aiming is the same as saying your shotgun with an IC choke tube shoots the same as your turkey choke at 3 yards.
There are mountains of research that say you should never put LEDs in incandescent housings.
It's mostly a Toyota thing trying for the blue tint look.
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2023, 01:12:40 PM »
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