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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2009, 08:10:20 PM »
Well it only takes one ticket to win plus it not only about the win it is what the cause is for.  That money will help increase the population on Rockies and then or odds increase when the WDFW decide to give us more permits.  Money means more sheep for us poor people to get a chance to draw. 
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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2009, 09:27:32 PM »
I also agree. It only takes one ticket to win......But when you have one ticket and Joe Moneybags bought 200 tickets.....well you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

Like I said earlier, the money goes to a great cause.
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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2009, 08:56:32 AM »
I am not a fan of this raffle.  I am not sure if there is a true cost savings or increased revenue generated for the state.  For these two reasons I question allowing WAFNAWS to run this raffle.  The do appear to be making a fair attempt to get notification out about this tag. The first time they did not seem to do to good a job IMO.

My opinions could be tainted by the fact that I cannot find out where WAFNAWS stood on closing Swakane to sheep hunting this year.

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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2009, 02:47:52 PM »
Of course we are all upset of the closing of Swakane this year by  the Department, that is who makes those decisions. The dept regional bio was concerned on the number of bighorns killed on the hwy and suggested the closing until the fence is built. Would it be any benefit to WAFNAWS if they closed the unit or any other for that matter?
 WAFNAWS has donated a lot of time and money(along with other conservation organizations) to the swakane fencing project but these projects take time. It should be underway soon if not already.
WAFNAWS is here to help bighorn sheep populations in WA. That will in turn help everybody have a better opportunity to view or hunt them. Most of us joined because we had drawn a tag and fell in love with the bighorns and wanted to give something back. The closing of a bighorn unit effects me because I donate my time(and money) to help increase bighorn numbers and if it closed we missed our goal. We are only one small group and it takes a lot of cooperation by many to get a project like this approved let alone funded and started.

Raising $330,000 for rocky mountain bighorn sheep enhancement in the last 4 years sounds pretty successful to me! Better than any other one animal auction or raffle in WA.
Just my thoughts not an official statement of WAFNAWS.
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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2009, 03:00:56 PM »
Right on Bryan
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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2009, 04:06:55 PM »
is this the same raffle i bought a ticket for at the counter when i bought my tags or a different one? ive never bought raffle tickets before but i was feeling lucky this year
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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2009, 04:12:41 PM »
is this the same raffle i bought a ticket for at the counter when i bought my tags or a different one? ive never bought raffle tickets before but i was feeling lucky this year

No, they already ran that one so if you didn't hear from F&G you didn't draw.
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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2009, 04:19:00 PM »
is this the same raffle i bought a ticket for at the counter when i bought my tags or a different one? ive never bought raffle tickets before but i was feeling lucky this year

No, they already ran that one so if you didn't hear from F&G you didn't draw.

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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2009, 04:22:07 PM »
 :rolleyes:
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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2009, 08:34:33 PM »
I understand the decision process or as much as anyone can.  What I would like to know is what position if any WAFNAWS took on closing Swakane.  Most all of us have our favorite animals and organizations, no one is better or wrose than the other.  The Bighorn Sheep raffle is the best tag in the state, it should generate the most revenue that is a given.  Does it generate more or less by being run by WAFNAWS than the state is simply a question.

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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2009, 10:26:34 PM »
is this the same raffle i bought a ticket for at the counter when i bought my tags or a different one? ive never bought raffle tickets before but i was feeling lucky this year

No, they already ran that one so if you didn't hear from F&G you didn't draw.

I thought they ran the raffle draw in August?  Sure hope so since I didn't get the phone call! 

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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2009, 10:38:53 PM »
it was a joke coues ;)
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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2009, 10:44:08 PM »
Good thing!  I'd like to have hope at least through the bulk of the summer to get my money's worth.   :chuckle:

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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2009, 05:37:24 AM »
Kinda why I bought one of these tickets, that and to help the sheep of course.

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Re: WA Rocky Mtn Bighorn Raffle
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2009, 08:54:34 AM »
As Bryan stated, WAFNAWS does not set management policy for the DFW.  However, we do work closely with them and communicate our positions.  While I believe they do indeed listen to us, it would be naive to think we have great influence over the Dept.  We consider our relationship a “partnership”, both sides doing what they can to benefit bighorn sheep.  And I believe we have a very good relationship with the WDFW.

Regarding the Swakane situation-  Actually the herd still met minimum population and composition requirements (a formula established by wdfw) to allow for a special permit hunting opportunity.  So, the Bio did not suggest closing it based on biological data.  His recommendations are scientific, biologically based.  The decision to close it this year came from Olympia.  We are all disappointed not to have this incredible opportunity this year, but the decision was cautious, conservative, and prudent in my personal opinion. 

The WAFNAWS Board of Directors did not all agree on the decision to close it.  We did, however, agree to an unofficial position of not opposing the recommendation based on all the considerations.  That should untaint your opinion chukarchaser.

Oh, and one of the main considerations of WDFW for awarding the marketing assignment of auction/raffle permits is based on the ability of that Organization to generate the most revenue.
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