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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2023, 10:26:14 AM »
If they told both Linville and Smith that it was ok to serve on the county planning commission, then it doesn’t sound like this lawsuit will be successful. 
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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2023, 10:48:07 AM »
If they told both Linville and Smith that it was ok to serve on the county planning commission, then it doesn’t sound like this lawsuit will be successful.

From Jefferson county’s planning commission website…

https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/580/Planning-Commission

The Planning Commission is composed of 9 citizen volunteers appointed by the Board of County Commissioners to support the Department of Community Development and to make advisory recommendations on land use planning matters to the Board of County Commissioners as authorized in the Planning Enabling Act (RCW 36.70.040). The group does not review project-specific permits. Appointees represent their constituents and the general public from their district

RCW 77.44.040

Persons eligible for appointment as members of the commission shall have general knowledge of the habits and distribution of fish and wildlife and shall not hold another state, county, or municipal elective or appointive office. In making these appointments, the governor shall seek to maintain a balance reflecting all aspects of fish and wildlife, including representation recommended by organized groups representing sportfishers, commercial fishers, hunters, private landowners, and environmentalists. Persons eligible for appointment as fish and wildlife commissioners shall comply with the provisions of chapters 42.52 and * 42.17 RCW.


It’s cut and dry. It doesn’t get anymore straight forward than that. Bye bye Lorna.




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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2023, 11:48:03 AM »
It was illegal for her to be on the wildlife commission, all her votes should be expunged, any rules or policies changed as a result of her illegal votes should also be expunged!  :twocents:
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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2023, 11:51:41 AM »
It was illegal for her to be on the wildlife commission, all her votes should be expunged, any rules or policies changed as a result of her illegal votes should also be expunged!  :twocents:

 :yeah: :yeah:

We need to get some our representatives to push this narrative.  We also need all our representatives to know how King Inslee is corrupt and manipulating the WDFW to fit his personal agenda. 

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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2023, 12:00:07 PM »
If they told both Linville and Smith that it was ok to serve on the county planning commission, then it doesn’t sound like this lawsuit will be successful.

From Jefferson county’s planning commission website…

https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/580/Planning-Commission

The Planning Commission is composed of 9 citizen volunteers appointed by the Board of County Commissioners to support the Department of Community Development and to make advisory recommendations on land use planning matters to the Board of County Commissioners as authorized in the Planning Enabling Act (RCW 36.70.040). The group does not review project-specific permits. Appointees represent their constituents and the general public from their district

RCW 77.44.040

Persons eligible for appointment as members of the commission shall have general knowledge of the habits and distribution of fish and wildlife and shall not hold another state, county, or municipal elective or appointive office. In making these appointments, the governor shall seek to maintain a balance reflecting all aspects of fish and wildlife, including representation recommended by organized groups representing sportfishers, commercial fishers, hunters, private landowners, and environmentalists. Persons eligible for appointment as fish and wildlife commissioners shall comply with the provisions of chapters 42.52 and * 42.17 RCW.


It’s cut and dry. It doesn’t get anymore straight forward than that. Bye bye Lorna.
Could you imagine her telling you what to do with your land.
Terrible.

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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2023, 12:19:37 PM »
If they told both Linville and Smith that it was ok to serve on the county planning commission, then it doesn’t sound like this lawsuit will be successful.

From Jefferson county’s planning commission website…

https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/580/Planning-Commission

The Planning Commission is composed of 9 citizen volunteers appointed by the Board of County Commissioners to support the Department of Community Development and to make advisory recommendations on land use planning matters to the Board of County Commissioners as authorized in the Planning Enabling Act (RCW 36.70.040). The group does not review project-specific permits. Appointees represent their constituents and the general public from their district

RCW 77.44.040

Persons eligible for appointment as members of the commission shall have general knowledge of the habits and distribution of fish and wildlife and shall not hold another state, county, or municipal elective or appointive office. In making these appointments, the governor shall seek to maintain a balance reflecting all aspects of fish and wildlife, including representation recommended by organized groups representing sportfishers, commercial fishers, hunters, private landowners, and environmentalists. Persons eligible for appointment as fish and wildlife commissioners shall comply with the provisions of chapters 42.52 and * 42.17 RCW.


It’s cut and dry. It doesn’t get anymore straight forward than that. Bye bye Lorna.
Could you imagine her telling you what to do with your land.
Terrible.
Well she lives in an area where people want to be told what to do

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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2023, 12:56:49 PM »
If they told both Linville and Smith that it was ok to serve on the county planning commission, then it doesn’t sound like this lawsuit will be successful.

From Jefferson county’s planning commission website…

https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/580/Planning-Commission

The Planning Commission is composed of 9 citizen volunteers appointed by the Board of County Commissioners to support the Department of Community Development and to make advisory recommendations on land use planning matters to the Board of County Commissioners as authorized in the Planning Enabling Act (RCW 36.70.040). The group does not review project-specific permits. Appointees represent their constituents and the general public from their district

RCW 77.44.040

Persons eligible for appointment as members of the commission shall have general knowledge of the habits and distribution of fish and wildlife and shall not hold another state, county, or municipal elective or appointive office. In making these appointments, the governor shall seek to maintain a balance reflecting all aspects of fish and wildlife, including representation recommended by organized groups representing sportfishers, commercial fishers, hunters, private landowners, and environmentalists. Persons eligible for appointment as fish and wildlife commissioners shall comply with the provisions of chapters 42.52 and * 42.17 RCW.


It’s cut and dry. It doesn’t get anymore straight forward than that. Bye bye Lorna.
Could you imagine her telling you what to do with your land.
Terrible.
Well she lives in an area where people want to be told what to do
Well it all makes perfect sense now. :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2023, 12:01:22 PM »
If they told both Linville and Smith that it was ok to serve on the county planning commission, then it doesn’t sound like this lawsuit will be successful.

So they are both going to be gone by the reasoning of the lawsuit? 

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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2023, 12:19:04 PM »
If they told both Linville and Smith that it was ok to serve on the county planning commission, then it doesn’t sound like this lawsuit will be successful.

So they are both going to be gone by the reasoning of the lawsuit?
Nope
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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2023, 12:20:13 PM »
It is my hope that enough bad press, she will become a liability to the king and she will be off the commission. I do not believe she will ever be gone. Her ego won’t allow it. She will pop up as some chair on some anti group.
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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2023, 02:33:25 PM »
Oh God! This lawsuit better work.

"The lawsuit arrives as Smith stands to slide in as the new chair of the Wildlife Committee, following last week’s departure of hunter favorite Kim Thorburn, who was not reappointed to the commission by Inslee after her term officially expired at the end of 2022."

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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2023, 02:40:33 PM »
Buy your golf clubs ladies and gentlemen.  :tup:
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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2023, 03:49:14 PM »
Interesting.  I don’t know how they are allowing her to serve both.


No one looked. I think the normal mechanism to vet the candidate is approval in the senate. This has not happened. I am willing to bet there have been a number of people serve over the years who have served on similar type boards. I know that there was a WDFW commissioner (Smith) who was the Dean of Huxley at WWU. He met with me regarding Skagit River stuff. I think that he would also have been a public official in that capacity.  No one looked then either.

This is one hell of a catch by Sportsman's alliance. Kudo's to them.


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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2023, 04:06:42 PM »
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/hunting-group-sues-wa-wildlife-commissioner-in-attempt-to-oust-them/

Maybe they can change the lawsuit to include any member serving on another commission rather than just singling out the member who they philosophically oppose.  Legally not sure if it makes a difference but the optics are pretty bad when the group bringing the suit is unaware that members that they agree with are also in violation. 


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Re: Commissioner Smith Sued by Sportsmen's Alliance
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2023, 04:29:57 PM »
It is my hope that enough bad press, she will become a liability to the king and she will be off the commission. I do not believe she will ever be gone. Her ego won’t allow it. She will pop up as some chair on some anti group.

I believe her husband is still in deep with the anti-hunting group she "retired" from.  I'm pretty sure she will be a burr under the saddle for many years to come in some capacity.

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