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Utah Oils
« on: April 26, 2023, 01:11:51 PM »
I have been applying for points in utah for years.  This year I think I am going to put in for some oil hunts.  I know there is almost a 0% of drawing so I don't have any expectations.  But i will never have a chance of drawing if I just keep building points.  But I don't even know what units I would apply for.  So does any suggestions?  I am thinking about bison, both sheep and maybe mountain goat.  Are these hunts pretty much all on public land or is a mix of public and private.  That seem to be my biggest question.  But any info would be appreciated.

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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2023, 01:43:53 PM »
All the sheep hunts are solid. All 7 non resident tags between both species  :chuckle:

Goats are about the same. How many points do you have for each?
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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2023, 02:18:25 PM »
Might wanna check what happened over the winter in units you're thinking about. Hearing a lot about winter kill in the north  but the central and some southern areas got hammered also and it wasn't just deer.  An area we hunted in the se part of the state is still unaccessible and normally this time of year guys are there chasing turkeys with no problem.  Probably not a problem, but would hate to draw an oil tag and find out the unit got devastated.

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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2023, 02:44:51 PM »
Gohunt has lots of good info & is a pretty good bargain for $150.

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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2023, 06:03:31 PM »
I am at either 9 or 10 points that why I figured I have 0% chance

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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2023, 08:40:02 PM »
Thank you for the pictures I will read over them and decide what to do.

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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2023, 03:00:40 AM »
I am at either 9 or 10 points that why I figured I have 0% chance

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Thing is if you’ve been buying points only you’ve wasted money, they give so few tags that anybody who isn’t at or close to max right now just needs to apply and hope to get lucky in the random. Look at them as lottery tickets. No different than applying for sheep/goat/moose in Washington


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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2023, 06:32:37 AM »
 :yeah: Zero gives you a .01% chance and max gives you a .08% chance so you better start Appling. You've already wasted a decade worth of chances. ALWAYS apply for hunts in a bonus point system :twocents:
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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2023, 08:55:37 AM »
Just randomly pick a unit, odds are you wont draw anyway.  Don't give it too much brain power.  If lightening strikes and you do end up drawing the Oh #$%$ factor will just go up knowing you don't have a clue what units you put in for. 

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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2023, 08:56:49 AM »
Whatever areas they are don't apply foe the ones I do as I need all the help I can get

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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2023, 08:58:40 AM »
Just randomly pick a unit, odds are you wont draw anyway.  Don't give it too much brain power.  If lightening strikes and you do end up drawing the Oh #$%$ factor will just go up knowing you don't have a clue what units you put in for.

 :yeah: pretty much how I roll, I figure drawing a tag is way harder than finding a sheep or goat in a crappy unit anyways  :chuckle: just send it

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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2023, 09:15:59 AM »
Yes this was my plan is just start applying and hopefully have that oh shot moment.  Any oil tag a cross the country seems like it is a lottery so I don't have my hopes up at all.  My main concern was applying for a unit, and if lighting strikes and I get drawn, have it be mostly private.  Thanks for all the in put.

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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2023, 02:00:34 PM »
Do you only get 1 selection per species?  Not like washington where you get 4

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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2023, 02:32:12 PM »
Just randomly pick a unit, odds are you wont draw anyway.  Don't give it too much brain power.  If lightening strikes and you do end up drawing the Oh #$%$ factor will just go up knowing you don't have a clue what units you put in for.

 :yeah: pretty much how I roll, I figure drawing a tag is way harder than finding a sheep or goat in a crappy unit anyways  :chuckle: just send it
 
I do agree with this strategy if you apply for oil in multiple states. Forgot 1 important thing
Once you draw make sure you get on every hunting forum you have never been on. Post something like “I I have never been to this unit or state. However I have been e-scouting and researching online. Not afraid to burn some boot leather but won’t set eyes on the unit until the 3-4 days of vacation I have for this tag. I can’t believe I drew this tag and just want to do it justice. Not asking for honey holes but I will take them! Pm me” seems like forum members really appreciate these posts 😂😂😂😂

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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2023, 02:56:36 PM »
Just randomly pick a unit, odds are you wont draw anyway.  Don't give it too much brain power.  If lightening strikes and you do end up drawing the Oh #$%$ factor will just go up knowing you don't have a clue what units you put in for.

 :yeah: pretty much how I roll, I figure drawing a tag is way harder than finding a sheep or goat in a crappy unit anyways  :chuckle: just send it
 
I do agree with this strategy if you apply for oil in multiple states. Forgot 1 important thing
Once you draw make sure you get on every hunting forum you have never been on. Post something like “I I have never been to this unit or state. However I have been e-scouting and researching online. Not afraid to burn some boot leather but won’t set eyes on the unit until the 3-4 days of vacation I have for this tag. I can’t believe I drew this tag and just want to do it justice. Not asking for honey holes but I will take them! Pm me” seems like forum members really appreciate these posts 😂😂😂😂

Yup, MM is a good one for this. The locals are real friendly over there. Extra credit if you drew on less than 10 points too :chuckle:

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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2023, 03:20:57 PM »
Do you only get 1 selection per species?  Not like washington where you get 4
Pretty much, you can pick a 2nd choice but you won’t draw a 2nd choice


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Re: Utah Oils
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2023, 06:03:57 PM »
All the sheep hunts are solid. All 7 non resident tags between both species  :chuckle:

Goats are about the same. How many points do you have for each?
Karl, how good do you think the desert hunts really are.  Would probably rather by one of those, get the tax deduction and have the money go to conservation as opposed to going to Mexico.  I am already booked down there but have been really contemplating the strategy.  Might be too late, but in the end, my guess is here you would be slightly less trophy quality most likely, maybe a bit more money but close, but a whole lot safer staying in the states.
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