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Oregon seed#
« on: May 26, 2023, 03:47:02 PM »
Seed #'s

Deer- 8112061
Elk- 6807130
Antelope- 5277380
Sheep- 3718206
Goat- 8886905
Prem Deer- 7453495
Prem Elk- 3669613
Prem Antelope- 4158251


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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2023, 04:04:57 PM »
Remind me how it works, is it just closest to the seed number or does it only count up or only down?


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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2023, 04:21:42 PM »
You want to be higher than the seed # but with the limited NR Tags, you have to be fairly close to the #.

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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2023, 05:22:27 PM »
It took forever to figure out how to find my number for spring bear, will they just send me an email if I drew?
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2023, 05:42:56 PM »
Not liking the elk number. Guess I will find out in a couple weeks.

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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2023, 05:47:46 PM »
It took forever to figure out how to find my number for spring bear, will they just send me an email if I drew?

No, you're on your own to find out.
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2023, 05:49:57 PM »
Please explain how to find such a number.  I see my app number but no seed number.  might be looking in the wrong spot.

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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2023, 05:54:11 PM »
I might be in the ball park for a elk tag


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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2023, 06:05:54 PM »
I’m 28,957 above the seed number for premium deer with Beatys Butte as 1st choice! Crossing my fingers :chuckle:

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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2023, 06:54:49 PM »
Please explain how to find such a number.  I see my app number but no seed number.  might be looking in the wrong spot.

The seed numbers are in the first post of this thread

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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2023, 06:55:24 PM »
Terrible seed numbers for my app numbers this year.  LOL.  Won't be drawing anything. 

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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2023, 07:00:00 PM »
You want to be higher than the seed # but with the limited NR Tags, you have to be fairly close to the #.
I managed to get below the seed # in every single category


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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2023, 07:01:10 PM »
Please explain how to find such a number.  I see my app number but no seed number.  might be looking in the wrong spot.

The seed numbers are in the first post of this thread
And you want your app number and seed number to be close together


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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2023, 07:04:44 PM »
Please explain how to find such a number.  I see my app number but no seed number.  might be looking in the wrong spot.

The seed numbers are in the first post of this thread
And you want your app number and seed number to be close together


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But not below the seed#

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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2023, 09:13:38 PM »
The results aren’t even out till mid June? Wth
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2023, 09:15:04 PM »
Please explain how to find such a number.  I see my app number but no seed number.  might be looking in the wrong spot.

The seed numbers are in the first post of this thread
And you want your app number and seed number to be close together


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802XXXX for me so maybe I will get lucky this year.

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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2023, 09:20:58 PM »
Sooo confused… Oregon sucks 😁. Results aren’t out for a while!!
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2023, 09:25:10 PM »
For those who are close, I was 18,000 above the seed number for premium elk last year and did NOT get a tag


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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2023, 09:38:55 PM »
For those who are close, I was 18,000 above the seed number for premium elk last year and did NOT get a tag


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The premium tags are such a crap shoot. Some units will have a couple hundred applications, some several thousand. I missed premium deer by 9784286, I'm probably the very last name on the list.  :bash:
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2023, 10:45:35 AM »
The results aren’t even out till mid June? Wth
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2023, 05:59:27 PM »
My numbers couldn’t be worse, but my 14 year old son isn’t that far away on sheep tag, but with only 1 NR tag for the unit, it probably won’t be close enough.
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2023, 10:40:01 PM »
I won't be getting anything in Oregon this year.
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2023, 09:11:30 AM »
Okay help me out here. I'm applying in a group for both deer an elk applications. I will have 100% draw odds in both but my app # in both is below seed #. WTH
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2023, 09:29:14 AM »
If you are certain you are 100%, app #'s don't mean much. Your # could be the furthers away and you would still get a tag if you have enough points.

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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2023, 09:58:48 AM »
If you are certain you are 100%, app #'s don't mean much. Your # could be the furthers away and you would still get a tag if you have enough points.
Hope you are right. I seem to recall the same thing last year with deer and still drew.
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2023, 10:46:16 AM »
First off, if you have more points than anybody else, the seed number is irrelevant. If you're a non-resident you could, however, run up against the non-res limit. This bites people every year. Another thing to be aware of is that if there is a non-resident within your party and the non-res limit is reached, your party will be excluded. They won't split up a party even though the residents in the group may have more than enough points to draw. Also be aware that if you apply as a group with, say two non-residents, and there's only a single non-resident tag available, you will be excluded. The non-resident limit is a hard line they will not cross and, in some cases, when there is only one non-resident tag for a given unit, the single tag will go to an outfitter in alternating years. The end result being no non-resident tags available in the drawing. Don't waste your money applying for a tag you can not draw.
Being "below the seed number" isn't always a bad thing, it depends on where the seed number is. When they determine who draws, they start at the seed number and go up, using the pool at the highest point level. If they get to 9,999,999 and still have tags available, they drop down to 0,000,000 and start up again. Use this years buck deer seed number for the example, 8112061.  If your application number is 0112061, you are, in effect, 2,000,000 over the seed number. Being "under" doesn't automatically disqualify you from have a good number. In this example, you are 20% over, so if you go to http://oregontags.com/ and Ron estimates your chance of successfully drawing, at your point level, at 30%, it's looking good. There's no guarantee since tag numbers or application numbers can vary widely from year to year but using that site I've been able to accurately predict drawing two tags I only had a 3% chance at.
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2023, 11:24:33 AM »
Your making my head spin just been easier if they would post results lol


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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2023, 12:15:11 PM »
Your making my head spin just been easier if they would post results lol


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:yeah: agree, these seed numbers are just stupid. I'll wait for the email or true results.
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2023, 12:40:29 PM »
Your making my head spin just been easier if they would post results lol


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:yeah: agree, these seed numbers are just stupid. I'll wait for the email or true results.

It's just a game we impatient ones play. I like knowing ASAP, then I can move on to being disappointed by something else.  :chuckle: But I know some people don't realize how it works, just thought an explanation might help.
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2023, 10:07:41 PM »
Seed numbers are only for the random tags where points aren't involved. The only ones I pay attention to are the premiums, sheep, and goat. I will draw elk this year off of my points and my seed number isn't within 700,000. I know of a premium tag drawn at 68,000. I was under 10,000 2 years ago on a premium deer tag and struck out.

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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2023, 12:52:11 PM »
Seed numbers are only for the random tags where points aren't involved. The only ones I pay attention to are the premiums, sheep, and goat. I will draw elk this year off of my points and my seed number isn't within 700,000. I know of a premium tag drawn at 68,000. I was under 10,000 2 years ago on a premium deer tag and struck out.
It's also fairly accurate to determine your chances if you are at a point level where some but not all applicants are in the 75% pool. If Ron Wold (http://oregontags.com/)says you have a 50% chance then you'd better be within 5,000,000 over the seed. I've drawn a couple tags where, at my point level, (25% pool), I had a 3% chance. My application numbers were less than 300,000 over the seed, so I drew. When you're talking about a single tag, like the premium tags, knowing the numbers doesn't tell you much because you could miss the seed by two and get beat by someone who hit it exactly or was one over. Pure outhouse luck, paraphrasing my Dad.  :chuckle:
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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2023, 08:33:35 PM »
Seed numbers are only for the random tags where points aren't involved. The only ones I pay attention to are the premiums, sheep, and goat. I will draw elk this year off of my points and my seed number isn't within 700,000. I know of a premium tag drawn at 68,000. I was under 10,000 2 years ago on a premium deer tag and struck out.
It's also fairly accurate to determine your chances if you are at a point level where some but not all applicants are in the 75% pool. If Ron Wold (http://oregontags.com/)says you have a 50% chance then you'd better be within 5,000,000 over the seed. I've drawn a couple tags where, at my point level, (25% pool), I had a 3% chance. My application numbers were less than 300,000 over the seed, so I drew. When you're talking about a single tag, like the premium tags, knowing the numbers doesn't tell you much because you could miss the seed by two and get beat by someone who hit it exactly or was one over. Pure outhouse luck, paraphrasing my Dad.  :chuckle:

Ha, that's true. If you're a resident you can can determine a little.from the seed numbers on deer, elk and lope outside of the 25%, but with a nonresident having no 25%, it just doesn't work the way I see it.

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Re: Oregon seed#
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2023, 08:53:11 PM »
Seed numbers are only for the random tags where points aren't involved. The only ones I pay attention to are the premiums, sheep, and goat. I will draw elk this year off of my points and my seed number isn't within 700,000. I know of a premium tag drawn at 68,000. I was under 10,000 2 years ago on a premium deer tag and struck out.
It's also fairly accurate to determine your chances if you are at a point level where some but not all applicants are in the 75% pool. If Ron Wold (http://oregontags.com/)says you have a 50% chance then you'd better be within 5,000,000 over the seed. I've drawn a couple tags where, at my point level, (25% pool), I had a 3% chance. My application numbers were less than 300,000 over the seed, so I drew. When you're talking about a single tag, like the premium tags, knowing the numbers doesn't tell you much because you could miss the seed by two and get beat by someone who hit it exactly or was one over. Pure outhouse luck, paraphrasing my Dad.  :chuckle:

Ha, that's true. If you're a resident you can can determine a little.from the seed numbers on deer, elk and lope outside of the 25%, but with a nonresident having no 25%, it just doesn't work the way I see it.


Right. Bumping into the non-resident tag limit ends every non-resident's chances at that point. So knowing the seed numbers doesn't do you a lot of good unless you're at the top of the point race. As a resident, I can compare my app number to the seed number and get a pretty accurate idea if I drew. As a non-resident you are engaged in a total crap-shoot.
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