Reducers legal yet? close?

[GEARHEAD]

shot 8 yotes from the deck this year, don't think the horse likes it. i saw a proposal earlier asking to permit the use of reducers. i am aware its legal to own, hoping to use too, someday.

[jackelope]

whats a reducer?

you mean suppressor?

[GEARHEAD]

yes, it was in legislation, back in Jan or Feb, wondering if there was or will be any movement.

[JackOfAllTrades]

From: HB1604
Read first time 01/26/09. Referred to Committee on Judiciary.

16 (c) Uses any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any
17 firearm unless the suppressor is legally registered and possessed in
18 accordance with federal law,
19 is guilty of a gross misdemeanor punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.

It appears that there has not been movement on this bill during the regular session.

-Steve

[Huntbear]

I believe you need a "Class 3 FFL" to be able to use a suppressor, as well as a fully automatic firearm... good luck in Washington State lol.

[JackOfAllTrades]

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearmstech/041708silencer-faqs.pdf

From a manufacture of noise suppressors:

http://www.gem-tech.com/legal.html

To the best of our knowledge, silencers are legal for private ownership in the following states: AL, AR, AK, AZ, CO, CT, FL, GA, ID, IN, KS, KY, LA, ME, MD, MS, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WV, WI, and WY. Additionally, they maybe owned by Class 3 dealers and Class 2 manufacturers (but not individuals) in: CA, IA, KS, MA, MO, and MI. Territorial law prohibits possession in the Territories and Possessions of the United States. There are no known restrictions on governmental ownership. If your state is not listed, check with your local office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, & Firearms or your state's Attorney General. If they are not legal in your state of residence, we cannot sell to you. Please do not ask us to violate state or federal law.

-Steve

[Caseyd]

This is another law that doesnt make sense. Can own but not use in this state!

And being in possesion of a silencer that has been fired through doenst matter...so i used it in Idaho 


Too me, seems like it should be all or nothing. Either can own it and use it, or make it illegal all together 

[bobcat]

It's just stupid that they can't be used. People complain about the noise from people shooting guns, whether it is at a shooting range, duck hunting, or whatever.

But by law you can't use a device that will make a firearm quieter   Why???  

[jackelope]

so you can't be sneaky with them??
  just a hunch.

[Mookie]

I remember when the Govenor's race was happening, Dino Rossi said he would make that stupid law go away. Now there is a person in the office who is completely anti gun.

I am just waiting for the law to be fixed so I can discharge in Wa. It is not even worth it to do it secretly.

[Pat/Rick]

"Now there is a person in the office who is completely anti gun." Just a reminder that her first term was by judge appointment. IMO. At least our State Constitution still recognizes the US Constitution as supreme law. (so far). Its not only here,I get overzealous on my letter writing to our state and federal reps also. Come to think of it I haven't demanded gregwires resignation yet. Hmmmm,gotta go!

[jdb]

where does it say that you can own them but not use them?

[Mookie]

where does it say that you can own them but not use them?

http://www.atg.wa.gov/opinion.aspx?section=archive&id=8666

[Jamieb]

The way I understand it, unless a load is pushing the bullet slower then the speed of sound, you still get the load crack of the bullet breaking the sound barrier. That's why the military has subsonic 9mm etc. to use in silenced firearms. A friend of mine in Alaska had a 300 whisper built to put a silencer on, again a subsonic round.

[BigGoonTuna]

what's kind of funny is that supressors are extremely popular with the .22LR hunters in europe, and getting one is not a big deal over there like they are here, despite the extremely oppressive gun laws in most of those countries.

guess it makes it a lot more effective for rabbit control when they can't hear their buddies getting thwacked in the head.