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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2009, 09:24:56 AM »
When I had my Long Range Rifle built (300 RUM) I went with a 30" Varmint bbl fluted and had a muzzle brake put on it. the rifle weighs in at 13 lbs.  The sharpness of the recoil has been damped out and it is not violent enough to break your skin should you creap in to close to the scope.

In '85 I had a custom 300 Wby built on a LH M700. That rifle has a 27.5" Douglas bbl that is sporter weight and no muzzle brake. This rifle weighs in at 11 lbs. I have received a magnum eye brow more than once from this puppy over the years, it is much more violent in recoil.

My brother recently had a muzzle brake designed by Shawn Carlock of Defensive Edge put on the M700 factory original 300 RUM. The nice thing about Shawn's brakes is that they vent out the side and not downwards, therefore you do not throw a bunch of dirt up in the air when shooting from the prone position. Plus, Shawn's brake have a tough look to them, that send a very clear non-verbal message.

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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2009, 09:33:34 AM »
The next time I get a brake, I'm going to make sure that it doesn't have vents on the bottom.  I got one for a Tikka .300 WSM - it doesn't kick particularly hard, but it jumped awful bad (scoped myself with it) - and didn't consider the vents on the bottom.  I ducked down to shoot a grouse under a tree limb and debris jumped all over the place when I pulled the trigger.

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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2009, 08:29:45 PM »
brakes are great if you were ear protection less felt recoil stay on target better i am putting one on my 300 win mag when i save up the money most are not cheap i am looking at 220.00 for blued
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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2009, 02:04:30 PM »
Brakes or breaks, either one, they are not for me.  Too danged much noise, to easy to get damaged hearing just from shooting at game.  If your that scared of the recoil, it aint gonna change much by putting one of them on your rifle.  Instead shoot a rifle with less recoil that you can shoot well and save everyone around you their hearing.  I Know of a gal in Ak who works as a guide, shoots handloaded 250gr bullets through her 338 win mag, refers to those wholes on the front of the barrel as "sissy slots".  Nuff said. :twocents:
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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2009, 03:24:40 PM »
My ears are still ringing from shooting my 300 Win Mag with a muzzle break on it a month ago.  Usually there is little to no time (and it is the last thing you are thinking of) when out hunting an an opportunity presents itself.  Muzzle breaks do work, but at what expense...  Your hearing.  Don't be the spotter sitting next to a guy with a muzzle break.  WOW!  That hurts.   :bash:

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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2009, 05:30:18 PM »
It is easy to do because they don't kick that bad.  So they kick a little more than some of the other cal.  So what?  It isn't bad and all and certainly doesn't hurt.  I don't ge what all the fuss is about with a little extra kick.  Just shoot the dang thing for a while and you will understand that it is nothing.  Unless of course you don't have a good recoil pad on it and it does hurt you.  If that is the case, please people, put a recoil pad on it.  

I shot my elk this year with a 200 gr bullet from my 300 rum and I was sure glad I had ever bit of gun I had.

Elk are big criters and are better treated as such.  Big Bullets out of Big Guns.  Of course you can shoot them with smaller cal. and they will die too.  But I like to see them bite the dirt when I pull the trigger.   :twocents:


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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2009, 10:36:10 AM »
I have a 300 Winny that came with a boss/brake. I'll tell you what... I HATE shooting it because of the noise...I also HATE hunting with it, because I dont like to hunt with ear plugs and muffs one!!! :o The other day I took a crack at a wounded deer without hearing protection and my left ear is ringing much more than normal (my ears have been ringing for 15 years.... :'()

However...holy mack... this gun kicks "about" like a 243... I have no idea what it would kick like without the break... but its a pleasure that way...

Noise is unbearable though. I am going to see a smith soon to see about replacing it with a nonvented boss or taking the boss completely off and just having a normal barrel....

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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2009, 10:38:35 AM »
I have a 300 Winny that came with a boss/brake. I'll tell you what... I HATE shooting it because of the noise...I also HATE hunting with it, because I dont like to hunt with ear plugs and muffs one!!! :o The other day I took a crack at a wounded deer without hearing protection and my left ear is ringing much more than normal (my ears have been ringing for 15 years.... :'()

However...holy mack... this gun kicks "about" like a 243... I have no idea what it would kick like without the break... but its a pleasure that way...

Noise is unbearable though. I am going to see a smith soon to see about replacing it with a nonvented boss or taking the boss completely off and just having a normal barrel....

Ernie
No need to see a gun smith, browning sells a solid boss, called the Boss cr (conventional recoil), for your gun..
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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2009, 02:01:44 PM »
Cool... I"ll google it...

So, have you guys seen the, I think its a savage, that has a muzzle break that opens and closes... that would be cool... while target shooting with your muffs on its open, reducing kick... then when you go hunting, close her up and reduce the boom factor...
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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2010, 06:34:27 PM »
When he was 8 my son got a ruger compact 7mm-08 with a muzzle break.  Sweet shooting gun.  We unscrewed the break for hunting though so we didn't have to mess with hearing protection.  With the break and the very short barrel it was the loudest gun I ever shot.  The blast was about 12" from your ear.

Real men don't need a break on anything less than a 300 RUM or 300-378.  My .300 and .338 win mags both shoot like a dream without a break.  Composite stock, standard pad. 

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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2010, 12:13:30 PM »
Many years ago I bought a Ruger #1 chambered in 375 Holland and Holland and found it to be wonderfully accurate with my hand loads of IMR 4350, Federal Magnum primers, Winchester cases and the Sierra 300 grain Game King Projectile.

I was a happy guy.

Then I stumbled across an ad for Magna-Port which stated once the bullet leaves the barrel; the propelling gasses travel faster than the bullet and may have the tendency to disturb the flight path. By venting those gasses to the sides and away from the base of the bullet there is less likelihood of disturbing the flight of the projectile near the muzzle. This, in theory, would enhance accuracy.

Being the fellow I am, I sent my prize off to Magna Port. They did their job and when tested over the bags, that rifle will now tear one 40 caliber hole at 100 yards and a one inch group at 200 yards (cold barrel please).

Now, I am a really happy guy.

I never noticed the difference in loudness at the range (hearing protection) although the blast tends to tear insulation off of the ceiling when fired from under a covered shelter.

Yes, I use the rifle for deer, snakes, coyotes and crows (everybody gets the same medicine...). In the field my hearing never seems to be unduly abused.

Another thing about the Magna Port process, it will never become loose, unscrewed or misaligned.

I am sold.


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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2010, 02:29:46 PM »
I USED TO OWN A .300 WIN MAG WITH A MUZZLE BRAKE...  I SHOT IT AT THE RANGE A FEW TIMES, IT WASN'T SO BAD, THEN I SHOT IT ONCE IN THE FIELD WITHOUT HEARING PROTECTION.
THEN I TOOK IT TO A GUN SHOW AND TRADED IT. 
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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2010, 09:42:09 PM »
Can we add a sticky about this too? 

Annoys the hell out of me.

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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2010, 08:12:40 PM »
Can we add a sticky about this too? 

Annoys the hell out of me.

some of us are new at this....irritant noted

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Re: Muzzle Brakes........not Breaks
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2010, 10:14:45 AM »
Can we add a sticky about this too? 

Annoys the hell out of me.

some of us are new at this....irritant noted

heh, sorry, didn't mean to come off as hostile!

 


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