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Re: The predator pit!!!
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2023, 06:03:34 PM »
If you listened to the Randy N. Pod cast with past game commission member Kim T. you would know the current Game Commission doesn’t care how many predators there are.

They were told 100% elk caves in Blues  killed by cats. And they don’t care.

It’s time to give up all the common sense ideas, because they could care less. Until concerns over Game Commission ignoring staff advice become a political hot potato nothing will change.

The Game Commission should be brought up at every political event in the State. Anyone running for any office needs to hear and be questioned on what they will do to correct the off the rails ,bigoted Game Commission.

Until they become afraid that the Commission might cost them votes nothing will happen.

 :yeah: totally agree, it has to be made public that is what the state is going to get more and more of, cats, wolves, and grizzlies, unless politicians are willing to support all users through a fair and balanced commission.

I have a little different opinion as to what should be emphasized. We should not be telling everyone in the non-hunting public about more and more cats, wolves and grizzlies. We should be emphasizing the reduced numbers of ungulates. That may seem like a small point but who among these wildlife watchers we hear so much about doesn't like to see a herd of elk, a moose, a mountain goat, Bighorn Sheep or even a couple deer especially if one of them is sporting a nice set of antlers.
Make the case the Commission is not managing wildlife in WA for abundance.

Ok that sounds like a better plan!
It does,……..but if the whole idea of coddling predators is to do exactly that(reduce ungulate numbers then it may fall on def ears. Imo, this is just a small piece to a big puzzle and it all revolves around guns. It’s not going to happen tomarrow or even a decade from now but it will be a talking point soon, why do you need this gun now, why do you need that one and so on. Pretty soon it will be like Biden said to a bunch of voters “you don’t need anything more than a shotgun”. If they can dwindle what we hunt, if they can turn public sentiment to push an agenda, they will and they will take their time. Most anti hunters are also anti gun, not all but most. They will give up the chance of seeing a deer or elk or moose to get those nasty people packing those evil guns out of their places they like to walk, picnic and explore. It’s getting to the point that there is no room for us(hunters), no middle ground for some. They don’t want us there. They have the backing of big donors and they have a WDFW that has been politicized.

I do like what ghost and Hump have said but it’s going to be an uphill climb. ghost, I’m leaning your direction.

And for those bow hunters thinking they will get a pass. Just keep posting photos of animals walking around with arrows sticking out of them. Everyone who consumes fish or wildlife is on their hit list.
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Re: The predator pit!!!
« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2023, 06:37:40 PM »
If you listened to the Randy N. Pod cast with past game commission member Kim T. you would know the current Game Commission doesn’t care how many predators there are.

They were told 100% elk caves in Blues  killed by cats. And they don’t care.

It’s time to give up all the common sense ideas, because they could care less. Until concerns over Game Commission ignoring staff advice become a political hot potato nothing will change.

The Game Commission should be brought up at every political event in the State. Anyone running for any office needs to hear and be questioned on what they will do to correct the off the rails ,bigoted Game Commission.

Until they become afraid that the Commission might cost them votes nothing will happen.

 :yeah: totally agree, it has to be made public that is what the state is going to get more and more of, cats, wolves, and grizzlies, unless politicians are willing to support all users through a fair and balanced commission.

I have a little different opinion as to what should be emphasized. We should not be telling everyone in the non-hunting public about more and more cats, wolves and grizzlies. We should be emphasizing the reduced numbers of ungulates. That may seem like a small point but who among these wildlife watchers we hear so much about doesn't like to see a herd of elk, a moose, a mountain goat, Bighorn Sheep or even a couple deer especially if one of them is sporting a nice set of antlers.
Make the case the Commission is not managing wildlife in WA for abundance.

Ok that sounds like a better plan!
It does,……..but if the whole idea of coddling predators is to do exactly that(reduce ungulate numbers then it may fall on def ears. Imo, this is just a small piece to a big puzzle and it all revolves around guns. It’s not going to happen tomarrow or even a decade from now but it will be a talking point soon, why do you need this gun now, why do you need that one and so on. Pretty soon it will be like Biden said to a bunch of voters “you don’t need anything more than a shotgun”. If they can dwindle what we hunt, if they can turn public sentiment to push an agenda, they will and they will take their time. Most anti hunters are also anti gun, not all but most. They will give up the chance of seeing a deer or elk or moose to get those nasty people packing those evil guns out of their places they like to walk, picnic and explore. It’s getting to the point that there is no room for us(hunters), no middle ground for some. They don’t want us there. They have the backing of big donors and they have a WDFW that has been politicized.

I do like what ghost and Hump have said but it’s going to be an uphill climb. ghost, I’m leaning your direction.

Good point Bigmacc
And I agree it very well may be a back door anti gun movement and if it isn’t it could become that.

But we got to start fighting back some where. Votes is all they care about and we should be making the current Game Commission a liability to anyone running for office who supports them.
👍 yes sir. I’m all in.

 


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