ONP Goat relocation outcome

[Alchase]

So they were monitoring hundreds of the transplanted goats by GPS tracker, and no one thought to investigate when those GPS Trackers stopped?
No one investigated how they all died?

Sounds like a disfunctional group of monitors.

[scotsman]

Yeah, something doesn’t smell right about this whole situation. Why didn’t they check into the diminishing number of goats at the first sign of reduced numbers instead of waiting until there are only three left?

[MADMAX]

It’s that darn climate change again

What a bunch of maroons



https://www.king5.com/article/tech/science/environment/what-caused-die-off-of-hundreds-mountain-goats-north-cascades/281-99b720fd-3d66-4fe3-9a1d-38df9a80c882

[Knocker of rocks]

So they were monitoring hundreds of the transplanted goats by GPS tracker, and no one thought to investigate when those GPS Trackers stopped?
No one investigated how they all died?

The vaxx or Hillary?

[Loup Loup]

Sounds like they should send some of those recreationolists up from the truck to go pick up collars for them.
The most telling statement for me was when the tribe bio stated that we’ll see if when there are less recreationalist in the area, due to Grizzly’s in the area, will help the situation. Sounds like the feds aren’t the only ones that want to keep the public (other than tribal members)out of the country.

[Born2late]

So they were monitoring hundreds of the transplanted goats by GPS tracker, and no one thought to investigate when those GPS Trackers stopped?
No one investigated how they all died?

Sounds like a disfunctional group of monitors.

I talked to a tribel guy that had told me about all the goats dieing and he was pissed that nobody ever would hike in right when they knew they were dead to see why they had died.
The management decisions through this whole thing sucks,
I got one on a trail camera in darrington after they relocated it and it was heading down the mountain and looked really skinny.

[Knocker of rocks]

I think the highest elevation in the Olympics is about 6000 feet. Don't they prefer to be at much higher elevations?

Rocky open terrain, not really elevation dependent. You see them in the the Icicle about 600’ above the creek

[Sitka_Blacktail]

I think the highest elevation in the Olympics is about 6000 feet. Don't they prefer to be at much higher elevations?

Rocky open terrain, not really elevation dependent. You see them in the the Icicle about 600’ above the creek

In Alaska, I've seen them right down at sea level.

[SWHUNTER]

So they were monitoring hundreds of the transplanted goats by GPS tracker, and no one thought to investigate when those GPS Trackers stopped?
No one investigated how they all died?

Sounds like a disfunctional group of monitors.

I talked to a tribel guy that had told me about all the goats dieing and he was pissed that nobody ever would hike in right when they knew they were dead to see why they had died.
The management decisions through this whole thing sucks,
I got one on a trail camera in darrington after they relocated it and it was heading down the mountain and looked really skinny.

There was one on a trail cam down by Trafton too. Also saw a trail cam pic of one basically on the river bar out the mountain loop.

[Special T]

I think the highest elevation in the Olympics is about 6000 feet. Don't they prefer to be at much higher elevations?

Olympic is 7980 and a massive amount of them are above 6k ft. Several of which I have summitted. Lots of mountain goat at the bases of said mountains in the 3500 ft range. They really like your.

[andrew_in_idaho]

I think the highest elevation in the Olympics is about 6000 feet. Don't they prefer to be at much higher elevations?

Rocky open terrain, not really elevation dependent. You see them in the the Icicle about 600’ above the creek

There is a herd right outside of lagrande Oregon that can be seen regularly right off of I-84, I’ve looked at topo maps and the ridge they live on tops out at 3700 feet, most of the time I’d say the goats are about 3200. I’ve seen them there in every month of the year, last week they were about 100’ off of the grande ronde at about 2950’


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[zwickeyman]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C6o1_a_pI3p/

One of the biggest problems right here

[fishngamereaper]

If they just left well enough alone..

What could of been...

They could of aggressively managed the Oly Pen herds, kept them in check and set a strict carry capacity goal.

Deal with problem goats as necessary...
It would of easily added 15-20 goat tags a year to an already dwindling OIL opportunity..

Every time I look out my windows and see the Olympic's front and center I just shake my head at lost opportunities...

[Sundance]

If they just left well enough alone..

What could of been...

They could of aggressively managed the Oly Pen herds, kept them in check and set a strict carry capacity goal.

Deal with problem goats as necessary...
It would of easily added 15-20 goat tags a year to an already dwindling OIL opportunity..

Every time I look out my windows and see the Olympic's front and center I just shake my head at lost opportunities...

In 2021 WDFW had the conflict goat resolution hunt category with a total of 25 permits available. The success rate was 33%, so about 8 goats were being harvested. With the population at that time along with the TFR rate, harvesting 8 goats wasn’t even scratching the population. Why they didn’t have 100+ permits is beyond me. Very frustrating.

[birddogdad]

our wildlife dollars well invested by the state professional team for the better of all