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keeping a dog close
« on: June 15, 2009, 08:51:30 PM »
Looking for help, how do I teach my dog to stay close to me when I'm in the woods? he love to run and he will run out about 100 yds and I would like to teach him to stay about 20 yds or less.
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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2009, 08:52:22 PM »
By the way he is a 8 month old Britney.
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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2009, 08:56:06 PM »
If he responds to you saying come then dedicate a day or more to simply walking in the woods and everytime he hits that mark of 20 yards tell him to come and give him praise. Eventually he will figure out that if he stays within 20 yards he will never have to come back to you. Also May I suggest letting him go a little farther as a bird hunting dog needs a little more range to find birds. Also I don't know but if a spaniel can point or hold a bird you may want him going even further out. My lab only flushes so I never let her go more than about 30-40 yards.

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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 08:58:09 PM »
check cords help.
he's a pointing dog so it may be in him to range wide rather than stay in close like a flusher.
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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 09:02:26 PM »
Check cord.

If he gets past where you want him to be, give it a yank and put him back whete he should be. He is young enough to learn pretty quickly, that if i go farther than i supose to, i will get yanked back, so i better stay closer.
Teach him his boundrys now while he still young an show him who is in charge.
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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2009, 10:40:50 AM »
does he like food? Put a whistle in your mouth. Three toots means come to you. start this in your yard. Use a check cord. Toot toot toot and toss a bunch of little chopped up hot dogs in the grass and tell him find the bird, hunt it up...whatever you want just keep it consistent. toot toot toot, toss some tidbits and hunt it up. You won't need the cord for long.

Go to the woods or a grassy field, don't follow any trail, always zigzag. When he gets ahead of you too far, toot, toot, toot, toss your hot dog tidbits into a grassy or area with light cover(make sure he sees it) and tell him hunt it up.

Pretty soon the toot, toot, toot means get back to you in a hurry. You can quit the hot dog tossing act. Just mix it up and give him an occasional treat for listening.

Once you have him quartering (a month or so) and returning on command, toot, toot, toot and toss a pigeon into higher grass. Hunt it up......

this is a good foundational start for a hunting companion. Obedience is first and foremost.
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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2009, 10:50:08 AM »
Are you wanting him to stay close while your out on walks, hunting, training, all of the above???  He's a brittany so they will tend to range more, most pointing dogs do.  Do you have an e-collar?  Start with a check cord and overlay the e-collar, I think this would be the easiest and most consistent way to get him where you want him.  With my pup the e-collar is a wonderful training aid and a great way to get his attention if I feel he's too far or not listening.  Another thing you could do is hide from him if you do it regularly he will make sure he can see you all the time for fear he might get seperated from you but I would not do this if you want him to range out while hunting.  I prefer my pup range far and wide while hunting but when on walks or hikes I want him within sight so I use the e-collar and give him a little tap if he's getting to far from me.  Let's see a picture of the pup.  What kind of birds do you hunt with him?

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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2009, 12:00:38 PM »
Work on your obedience. Recall(here) should be strong before you ever set foot in the field. Then you can slowly show him what you expect.

Here (or Come) is also for safety. If you can't call your dog to you in your yard, get him on a hen or, a porcupine or skunk and you'll only have yourself to blame.

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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2009, 12:20:53 PM »
My Brittany ranges a fair amount but have him trained with my whistle and shock collar. You can keep them close with those items but know that they like to run and cover ground. Mine will always check back in with me when out hiking or hunting. The breed will typically wander more than you probably want. But if you work with him he can be trained to stay closer. My trainer started mine with the long leash then progressed to the shock collar. I am not advocating shocking the piss out of them unless they happen to chase a deer, bear or something else you don't want him to then they remember not to chase them after that.
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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2009, 07:00:05 PM »
Thanks guy's, I'm not looking for him to stay that close but when we have been out shed hunting he goes out of sight for a while and it makes me nervous. but if I do a few lip squeaks he will come running unless he can't hear me then I have to yell his name. I think I will try the whistle and treat thing first.
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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2009, 07:20:04 PM »
all great advice, you might also try a bell when you're in heavier cover. i once had a setter i nagged horribly when grouse hunting then when i put the bell on she was'nt ever as far away as i thought :)

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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2009, 07:50:49 AM »
Shock Collar.
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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2009, 08:29:43 AM »
shock collar last resort in my opinion
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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2009, 10:37:34 AM »
Shock collar works great if you plan on properly collar conditioning the dog. This should take you at least 2 months of work before you even put your finger on the shock button.

If you just want the dog to come to you when you ask...you'd be stupid to strap a collar on in substitute for basic obedience. You'll mess him up to high heaven.
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Re: keeping a dog close
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2009, 11:14:20 AM »
Im with these guys my brittanys do seem to range a bit more than other breeds I have hunted around..........Only had 2 that didnt range real far but they had alot of training invested in them.........if birds hold and dog does his job the range doesnt do any damage when Im out.

Good looking pup!!

 


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