USFS Proposes to Increase Logging in PNW

[JimmyHoffa]

Doubt this one will get done before the department of government efficiency decide to sell off the federal land 😂

Don't need to sell the land, just cut 90% of the non-value added employees and sustainably log. It could be managed in the black just like virtually every other timberland owner!   

I know a guy who works for DNR managing timber and he said they have been working with USFS regarding Washingtons logging practices.... Seems that it's been so long for USFS, they didn't have anyone who knew how to manage the logging.

The DNR also has been behind on the timber they've promised to sell on behalf of the trusts... Their excuse has always been "lack of staffing", yet their staff now have time to work on USFS timber sales under good neighbor authority? 

It is true that most if not all of the USFS employees that were around when the FS actually harvested timber have moved on or retired.

Regardless of the government failings, any additional timber harvest is a good thing for the region! We are blessed with one of the nation's greatest renewable resources, it should be utilized!

I’d be really happy if the Red-Tape around NEPA could be cut. It’s the hold up for the most part on almost every project. Having to do 6-10 entries on a timber sale project or wait years for clearance to burn an area is some crap.

Should say too that the roads packages that the “engineers” want is something else. Spend way longer time thinking about replacement culverts and working on roads before even putting a timber sale up for bid sometimes.

How do you log without a road? And, if you want that road to last more than a month what would you do?

Few years back the guys were falling faster than roads could be built.  They used balloons and helicopters to move logs.

[addicted1]

I hope they can pull it off, they are no where near capacity to even begin to do this. Let alone the process to get the timber sales qualified, but you got a 4 year window to get the ball rolling here and get to work. Hope they can get it done. Would be cool to see some revival in the old logging towns.

[Buckjunkie]

Ditto all the support for this!

[pd]

Thanks, @bigtex!

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[GASoline71]

The USFS and the Yakima tribe were partnering up doing work and was all over GMU 346 this year doing fire mitigation work.  It was a welcome sight to see this finally being done.

Gary

[Special T]

Lots of parked logging equipment right now.

[ducks4days]

Are they planning on staffing local lumber yards to handle the timber increase, or is the excess still planned to be sold to counties in asia?

[baldopepper]

Are prices on timber finally up?  Last I heard there was such a glut of timber that most logging companies couldnt justify logging.  They don't cut just to cut, they've got to make a profit and I hear that's not happening right now

[HighCountryHunter88]

Are prices on timber finally up?  Last I heard there was such a glut of timber that most logging companies couldnt justify logging.  They don't cut just to cut, they've got to make a profit and I hear that's not happening right now

the lumber marked is currently on a run, especially in wide's

[actionshooter]

Are prices on timber finally up?  Last I heard there was such a glut of timber that most logging companies couldnt justify logging.  They don't cut just to cut, they've got to make a profit and I hear that's not happening right now

the lumber marked is currently on a run, especially in wide's

Almost everything ias on a run right now... at least for the last couple of weeks

[Boss .300 winmag]

Are they planning on staffing local lumber yards to handle the timber increase, or is the excess still planned to be sold to counties in asia?

That’s what I was thinking, I really don’t think the mills left could handle a large in flux of logs.

[NOCK NOCK]

Meh!  I have lost ALL faith in anything the Forest Circus attempts to do. Odds are this will never come to fruition.

[HighCountryHunter88]

Are they planning on staffing local lumber yards to handle the timber increase, or is the excess still planned to be sold to counties in asia?

That’s what I was thinking, I really don’t think the mills left could handle a large in flux of logs.

the timber industry would evolve to absorb what is being cut, timber companies would prefer to hold their own timber resources in most cases if they can procure logs from outside sources. we have lost 7-8 mills this year in WA ID OR and some of those closures were due to lack of log availability to run the mill at optimal levels. BC has lost around 22 mills in the last two years. if we see a resealable increase in demand over normal markets we will see very short supply and high prices.