Possible record bull?

[MeSacHappy]

Wow...this thread has so much flavor.
I knew this bull, as did most people in the Roslyn community.  As an adult bull he never once stepped foot on public land.  He hung out on the golf course, the cemetery, and people's yards...that's how he lived to such an old age and grew such an extraordinary world record set of antlers.
Is Casey a great elk hunter? Without a doubt.
But does the end justify the means?
Can he seriously look up at his wall of 400" bulls and be proud of his World Record?

So if it never left the resort land and city property where could he have shot it at? I have heard it traveled a bit further than that.

 It’s a different bull

It's possible I guess. 
I will defer to your knowledge.
I guess huge 450"+ inch bull hanging around residential neighborhoods in Cle Elum and Roslyn city limits is more commonplace than I thought.  I think I've seen him personally though, and have seen 10+ pics and videos of him I people's yards.  I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed it was shot on the Duncan Ranch property? 
I guarantee you though that that bull never once stepped foot on public land in his adult life, or else Mr. Whitefoot would have shot it.
The thing I find most amazing is that anybody that drew a 335 Quality tag could have this shot bull. You didn't need a big bucks Gov or Raffle tag to legally kill this bull, so the fat wallet scenario doesn't hold water...
You just needed him to step on to the right property on the right date...and that is what Casey did.
Congrats?

[Ghost Hunter]

Wow...this thread has so much flavor.
I knew this bull, as did most people in the Roslyn community.  As an adult bull he never once stepped foot on public land.  He hung out on the golf course, the cemetery, and people's yards...that's how he lived to such an old age and grew such an extraordinary world record set of antlers.
Is Casey a great elk hunter? Without a doubt.
But does the end justify the means?
Can he seriously look up at his wall of 400" bulls and be proud of his World Record?

So if it never left the resort land and city property where could he have shot it at? I have heard it traveled a bit further than that.

 It’s a different bull

It's possible I guess. 
I will defer to your knowledge.
I guess huge 450"+ inch bull hanging around residential neighborhoods in Cle Elum and Roslyn city limits is more commonplace than I thought.  I think I've seen him personally though, and have seen 10+ pics and videos of him I people's yards.  I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed it was shot on the Duncan Ranch property? 
I guarantee you though that that bull never once stepped foot on public land in his adult life, or else Mr. Whitefoot would have shot it.
The thing I find most amazing is that anybody that drew a 335 Quality tag could have this shot bull. You didn't need a big bucks Gov or Raffle tag to legally kill this bull, so the fat wallet scenario doesn't hold water...
You just needed him to step on to the right property on the right date...and that is what Casey did.
Congrats?

Just think, it could have been me.  Happy with what I got with very similar circumstances.  Help from good folks, and I'm a happy hunter.  Wish nothing but the same.

[85yota]

But than u would have needed permission to acces said land. I'm not saying this happened, but sometimes big money makes landowners change there mind

[danderson]

I'm truly amazed by the negative comments surfacing around this bull as to the location of the hunt and the fortunate hunter. It's a great bull that has eluded the best of us for many years. I've lived and hunted in its home range for the past 45 years and I can say that I've never seen him, I have seen plenty of other bulls with the same great genetics that live nowhere near where the so-called people in the know think it hung out, its laughable.  Believe it or not some of the biggest elk never get harvested dying of old age, sickness, poaching or hit by vehicle.  Some never get scored or bragged about especially on social media, the most inaccurate form of communication there is. the genetics will live on.

[teanawayslayer]

Wow...this thread has so much flavor.
I knew this bull, as did most people in the Roslyn community.  As an adult bull he never once stepped foot on public land.  He hung out on the golf course, the cemetery, and people's yards...that's how he lived to such an old age and grew such an extraordinary world record set of antlers.
Is Casey a great elk hunter? Without a doubt.
But does the end justify the means?
Can he seriously look up at his wall of 400" bulls and be proud of his World Record?

So if it never left the resort land and city property where could he have shot it at? I have heard it traveled a bit further than that.

 It’s a different bull

It's possible I guess. 
I will defer to your knowledge.
I guess huge 450"+ inch bull hanging around residential neighborhoods in Cle Elum and Roslyn city limits is more commonplace than I thought.  I think I've seen him personally though, and have seen 10+ pics and videos of him I people's yards.  I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed it was shot on the Duncan Ranch property? 
I guarantee you though that that bull never once stepped foot on public land in his adult life, or else Mr. Whitefoot would have shot it.
The thing I find most amazing is that anybody that drew a 335 Quality tag could have this shot bull. You didn't need a big bucks Gov or Raffle tag to legally kill this bull, so the fat wallet scenario doesn't hold water...
You just needed him to step on to the right property on the right date...and that is what Casey did.
Congrats?

I’d like to know where you get your information. It’s laughable at best.

[jason stevens]

Reading this post 27 pages deep makes me feel bad for hunters. Admire the bull an congratulate the hunter an move on. If you think this is a one an done bull in Washington you should do better work in the field. You may never uave the opportunity during season but I promise the 400 bulls are out there an so are giant bucks. It's all timing. Again just say he'll ya bud an move on to something important.  An if Casey reads ant of this. Bud you harvested a great bull that would have probly died of old age before any of us got an opportunity for a shot. Congrats!!! Stay positive for everyone.

[bankwalker]

It's very easy to see from the moment I made my first comments. That integrity is something most people lack.

Just paint the damn story correctly and let's not fabricate it to make one's self look like a great hunter.....
We already know Casey is a great hunter. His resume speaks for itself. But this bull is not that case. He got a great opportunity and capitalized on it.
Congrats to him on that and the world record bull. It's amazing for what it is without all the rest of the story.

[The scout]

Cam Hanes has it on his podcast now.

[2MANY]

I remember thinking she was cool.

[The scout]

 

I remember thinking she was cool.

 :yeah:I haven’t watched it, just saw it was on YouTube.

[TheKid#10]

Why use a bow when you could have done something really awesome and harvested him with a sledgehammer?

[link]

Tim Wells would have jumped out of the neighbor's kid's tree house with a spear onto Chico's back and slayed that beast.

[kirkl]

This is all comical reading all this.

[JakeLand]

This is all comical reading all this.

ya that , kinda BS

[Romulus]

Hunting prowess is something that many wish to measure but there really is no accurate way to do it...........Put a very spooky whitetail in 1000 wooded acres and turn people loose one at a time to try and kill it? There is simply no way to truly measure and we have our own judgement system..........Guys that buy a bunch great tags and get many great trophies are dismissed as shooters with so much opportunity that anyone could do it.....some are.....some are great hunters who also were very successful (or lucky) in other aspects of life.  Some DIY guys hunt very hard and get great trophies with draw tags or simply enduring more than most are willing to endure to make it happen. These are dismissed by many by saying if I had that much time I could have that success. And then we mix in the scoring aspect of Boone and Crockett or whatever and judge hunters based on that. But that is just the score of the animal and not the hunter.  Many great trophies have been killed that are still young animals or animals that are hard to draw but not much of a challenge to hunt. At the end of the day there is a spectrum that we each have. To some the only thing that matters is the score of the animal and they hold no more value on a long hard multi year quest to kill and animal than they do the sheer luck of something running across the road and looking at them and they shoot it. To others they want a hunt that taxed every part of their being, physical and mental hardship and some aspects of the hunt that they know most would not have the ability or discipline to carry out. And when we talk very high scoring records many of us tire of the stories of many guides, friends, cameras, planes, etc being deployed to find an amazing animal that would never be killed by normal means in normal seasons and it takes something away from the STORY. Not the amazing trophy. To me this story started out sounding like it was something that matched both...Like the record cougar the older guy named Gene killed after devoting his life to chasing cats in the backcountry and was finally rewarded with a true giant.  It sounded like the story matched the size of the kill.............So once the STORY or at least enough of it came out it was disappointing.  I dont think it was illegal in any way...and I have no reason to think it was unethical but I really dont know. But either way to me it is just disappointing........and I am sure the story to Casey and his group is disappointing.  But what do you do........let it go?