Possible record bull?

[JDHasty]

Got a laugh, can’t believe this thread is still going. Really don’t get the issue here, man see a bull, man kills bull. Why does anyone care how it happened if it was legal?

Guy down the street and his son built a custom hot rod and did most of the work themselves. They belong to a club and enter their car in car shows.  The same sort of discussion goes on there.  Guys will enter a car, or two or three cars, in local club shows.  Cars that they have either bought outright, or have commissioned and paid for the work on, but haven’t done much, if any, of the actual work on. 

When I was younger we raced our cars at South Sound Speedway and Seattle International Raceway.  Guys who hadn’t been up until midnight all week working on their car, but had plenty of money would show up on Saturday and rent a ready to go race car. 

So, if they place first in the race or car show was it incumbent on others to congratulate them?  My personal opinion is that it is not necessary to recognize their accomplishment in the same light as others who actually have done the hard part themselves, or even recognize it as an accomplishment and not an “accomplishment.”  It isn’t incumbent on me to recognize them as having actually accomplished anything worthy of recognition, or I’m not being a good sport.   

I’m not telling anyone else how they should consider trophies taken under auction or raffle tags, but I resent being told, or have it insinuated, that I am envious or resentful if I don’t consider the value of the accomplishments of those who have the money to buy a trophy, and have for all intents and purposes done just that, differently.  Different in kind, not just degree. 

[kentrek]

Got a laugh, can’t believe this thread is still going. Really don’t get the issue here, man see a bull, man kills bull. Why does anyone care how it happened if it was legal?

Guy down the street and his son built a custom hot rod and did most of the work themselves. They belong to a club and enter their car in car shows.  The same sort of discussion goes on there.  Guys will enter a car, or two or three cars, in local club shows.  Cars that they have either bought outright, or have commissioned and paid for the work on, but haven’t done much, if any, of the actual work on. 

When I was younger we raced our cars at South Sound Speedway and Seattle International Raceway.  Guys who hadn’t been up until midnight all week working on their car, but had plenty of money would show up on Saturday and rent a ready to go race car. 

So, if they place first in the race or car show was it incumbent on others to congratulate them?  My personal opinion is that it is not necessary to recognize their accomplishment in the same light as others who actually have done the hard part themselves, or even recognize it as an accomplishment and not an “accomplishment.”  It isn’t incumbent on me to recognize them as having actually accomplished anything worthy of recognition, or I’m not being a good sport.   

I’m not telling anyone else how they should consider trophies taken under auction or raffle tags, but I resent being told, or have it insinuated, that I am envious or resentful if I don’t consider the value of the accomplishments of those who have the money to buy a trophy, and have for all intents and purposes done just that, differently.  Different in kind, not just degree.

When you get beat by the guy renting the race car do you go up to him and tell him "i dont need to congratulate you because you didnt earn it" ?  Do you jump online after the race and say i was told by someones uncles nephew that he didnt do "xyz" so its not that special ? Did he work on his bussiness until midnight in order to make that money ? Was his bussiness being a dr saving a kids life on a 16 hour surgery ? Is that harder then wrenching on a car ? He might be wishing he could just chill at home wrenching on a car with his dad...he might be jelous of you !

Do you think him placing 1st takes away from your accomplishment of putting in that hard work ? You only need to be recognized by yourself...

[Magnum_Willys]

Yea that racing analogy is weird - its “not the plane its the pilot” as Maverick would say.

[blackveltbowhunter]

These types of kills bring front and center the elephant in the room no one really wants to talk about. The fact that the historic way we have used and looked at the north American model is changing. And change is scary if your not in control of it.  It's natural to lash out at anything that seems like a threat.

[NOCK NOCK]

Pretty sure we are more than half way thru the 7 deadly sins here with this thing, from both sides.

Fun side fact for all those throwing out the Jealousy claim. You are actually referring to Envy. FWIW


JDHasty I get your point, its a pride thing. Which I believe can be good or bad, depending on how exercised.

[MADMAX]

Pretty sure we are more than half way thru the 7 deadly sins here with this thing, from both sides.

Fun side fact for all those throwing out the Jealousy claim. You are actually referring to Envy. FWIW


JDHasty I get your point, its a pride thing. Which I believe can be good or bad, depending on how exercised.

Yup

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,290055.msg3946520.html#msg3946520

[HUNTIN4SIX]

These types of kills bring front and center the elephant in the room no one really wants to talk about. The fact that the historic way we have used and looked at the north American model is changing. And change is scary if your not in control of it.  It's natural to lash out at anything that seems like a threat.

Top 5 best comments right there bro...I agree, well said!

[addicted1]

Got a laugh, can’t believe this thread is still going. Really don’t get the issue here, man see a bull, man kills bull. Why does anyone care how it happened if it was legal?

Guy down the street and his son built a custom hot rod and did most of the work themselves. They belong to a club and enter their car in car shows.  The same sort of discussion goes on there.  Guys will enter a car, or two or three cars, in local club shows.  Cars that they have either bought outright, or have commissioned and paid for the work on, but haven’t done much, if any, of the actual work on. 

When I was younger we raced our cars at South Sound Speedway and Seattle International Raceway.  Guys who hadn’t been up until midnight all week working on their car, but had plenty of money would show up on Saturday and rent a ready to go race car. 

So, if they place first in the race or car show was it incumbent on others to congratulate them?  My personal opinion is that it is not necessary to recognize their accomplishment in the same light as others who actually have done the hard part themselves, or even recognize it as an accomplishment and not an “accomplishment.”  It isn’t incumbent on me to recognize them as having actually accomplished anything worthy of recognition, or I’m not being a good sport.   

I’m not telling anyone else how they should consider trophies taken under auction or raffle tags, but I resent being told, or have it insinuated, that I am envious or resentful if I don’t consider the value of the accomplishments of those who have the money to buy a trophy, and have for all intents and purposes done just that, differently.  Different in kind, not just degree.

Are you saying it shouldn’t be considered a record bull for its location to private lands? Or, just that you don’t want to congratulate him for killing a bull? Just not sure what you were trying to get to with that.

[LDennis24]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8FK25fm/

[blackveltbowhunter]

My video is real choppy, is that the bull next being videoed from a rig?

[LDennis24]

Yeah video of someone pulling up on the bull in an open area along the road

[andersonjk4]

Elkshape Podcast with Casey Brooks from earlier in 2024. 

https://elkshape.com/blogs/podcast/casey-brooks?srsltid=AfmBOoqHrfY0ImfxBO60aOfJCYItspLExUOPZICYJtoLAGMmHP2mmDJu

[kentrek]

Yeah video of someone pulling up on the bull in an open area along the road

I wonder if the video was cut short because the bull took off shortly after....or do you think he stood there posing for photos and the guy just stopped videoing the world record bull

[LDennis24]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHCukpgJnIV/?igsh=bHBxYzNjeTg4ank3&img_index=3

[Caveman123]

Word on the street around here is he chased this particular elk from beginning to end of his season. It did what elk do in central wa and live in the mountains in early season and lived in the mountains and came down to the valleys in the winter. Only have 3rd and 4th hand info but sounded like he worked his ass off for this particular animal. Congrats to the hunter great to see something great taken in our home state.