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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2025, 10:45:59 AM »
Unfortunate that this lawsuit will need to be brought against a state like Washington and go all the way through the courts until it gets to the Supreme Court before we will benefit from the ruling. And the Supreme Court would have to rule in agreement with the 5th circuit’s decision.

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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2025, 01:30:09 PM »
As of yet it seems the Supreme court puts out decisions with standards for the lower courts to follow in their review of prior decisions and then the lower courts disregard the Supreme courts decisions and allow the unconstitutional laws to continue.
There is no relief, just an endless mire of legal nonsense while we all have our rights that are supposed to be protected by the constitution infringed upon by political organizations, politicians and judges.








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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2025, 01:49:09 PM »
I know it’s the process to challenge but Unconstitutional gun laws should go right to the top not wait years and years of infringing our Rights. Or keep it off the books until it goes to court not put it in then fight it. Maybe if lower courts abided by it instead of whatever the hell they do. Maybe a Constitutional test before it even gets that far. It’s so crazy where is common sense.
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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2025, 03:11:23 PM »
If a person is old enough to die for his or her country in battle, he or she should be old enough to buy any gun. They should also then be able to buy alcohol and therefore be old enough to go to prison for the rest of their natural born lives if they use that gun or alcohol in the commission of a crime. They're considered an adult in the eyes of the court at 18. Maybe it's time we take the gloves off and treat 18 year olds like the adults they are. If as a country, we're fine with sending an 18 or 19 year old to the front lines to be killed then so be it. If they're an adult, give them the rights of one and make them act like it!

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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2025, 03:23:28 PM »
If a person is old enough to die for his or her country in battle, he or she should be old enough to buy any gun. They should also then be able to buy alcohol and therefore be old enough to go to prison for the rest of their natural born lives if they use that gun or alcohol in the commission of a crime. They're considered an adult in the eyes of the court at 18. Maybe it's time we take the gloves off and treat 18 year olds like the adults they are. If as a country, we're fine with sending an 18 or 19 year old to the front lines to be killed then so be it. If they're an adult, give them the rights of one and make them act like it!

If I'm not mistaken 21 was the age of adulthood until the Feds needed to feel people into the meat grinder that was Vietnam.  It was why the voting age had to be dropped to 18. I think a debate as to what the age of adult hood resides would be good and ALL rights and responsibilities should be confered.
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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2025, 03:37:53 PM »
I wrote what I wrote for conversation sake. I didn't actually know until I looked up what age is considered an adult by the courts. The Google machine says 18. I've always thought the idea that  an 18 year old can go to war but he can't have a beer is seriously messed up. Just flat out ridiculous and asinine!
 If society at some point says, 18 years of age isn't an adult and the rules and such are changed to reflect this belief, fine. But until such point, telling an 18 year old, you're expendable but, you can't buy a gun, you can't have a beer is just wrong.   

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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2025, 04:05:10 PM »
I wrote what I wrote for conversation sake. I didn't actually know until I looked up what age is considered an adult by the courts. The Google machine says 18. I've always thought the idea that  an 18 year old can go to war but he can't have a beer is seriously messed up. Just flat out ridiculous and asinine!
 If society at some point says, 18 years of age isn't an adult and the rules and such are changed to reflect this belief, fine. But until such point, telling an 18 year old, you're expendable but, you can't buy a gun, you can't have a beer is just wrong.

I agree with you but I’m pretty sure 18yr olds in the military can drink on base…
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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2025, 04:20:57 PM »
Quote from: Platensek-po ⁶link=topic=290555.msg3952258#msg3952258 date=1738368310
I wrote what I wrote for conversation sake. I didn't actually know until I looked up what age is considered an adult by the courts. The Google machine says 18. I've always thought the idea that  an 18 year old can go to war but he can't have a beer is seriously messed up. Just flat out ridiculous and asinine!
 If society at some point says, 18 years of age isn't an adult and the rules and such are changed to reflect this belief, fine. But until such point, telling an 18 year old, you're expendable but, you can't buy a gun, you can't have a beer is just wrong.

I agree with you but I’m pretty sure 18yr olds in the military can drink on base…

During the Viet Nam Era you.could neither vote or drink until 21 but you could sure get drafted and sent off to fight

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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2025, 04:25:21 PM »
I wrote what I wrote for conversation sake. I didn't actually know until I looked up what age is considered an adult by the courts. The Google machine says 18. I've always thought the idea that  an 18 year old can go to war but he can't have a beer is seriously messed up. Just flat out ridiculous and asinine!
 If society at some point says, 18 years of age isn't an adult and the rules and such are changed to reflect this belief, fine. But until such point, telling an 18 year old, you're expendable but, you can't buy a gun, you can't have a beer is just wrong.

I agree with you but I’m pretty sure 18yr olds in the military can drink on base…

That ended before 1987 for the Navy.😉

But the golf courses had beer machines.🤣
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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2025, 04:36:41 PM »
If a person is old enough to die for his or her country in battle, he or she should be old enough to buy any gun. They should also then be able to buy alcohol and therefore be old enough to go to prison for the rest of their natural born lives if they use that gun or alcohol in the commission of a crime. They're considered an adult in the eyes of the court at 18. Maybe it's time we take the gloves off and treat 18 year olds like the adults they are. If as a country, we're fine with sending an 18 or 19 year old to the front lines to be killed then so be it. If they're an adult, give them the rights of one and make them act like it!

If I'm not mistaken 21 was the age of adulthood until the Feds needed to feel people into the meat grinder that was Vietnam.  It was why the voting age had to be dropped to 18. I think a debate as to what the age of adult hood resides would be good and ALL rights and responsibilities should be confered.
And around that time, I don't think there was an age associated with purchasing firearms.  One of the neighbors said he would order guns out of catalogs or at the hardware store with summer job money ( mowing lawns, bucking hay, hauling salmon).
Think he got a 30-30, a milsurp Springfield 06 and a 1911.  Think the 1911 was like $30 plus shipping.  I think this was around 1962-5.

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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2025, 04:58:35 PM »
Brother sent a sako home to me from Finland while he was there in 1962.  No problems, just had to get good shipping insurance. I still have the gun.

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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2025, 05:14:48 PM »
Wichita Kansas, 82-86,  you could have beer with 3.2 % alcohol in town at 18 or 19 and we could buy any beer we wanted in Oklahoma. I don't think it's that way today but not positive. It would be interesting to know if the 18 or 19 year old's at the Joint base Lewis/McChord south of Tacoma can drink on base.

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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2025, 05:37:42 PM »
Wichita Kansas, 82-86,  you could have beer with 3.2 % alcohol in town at 18 or 19 and we could buy any beer we wanted in Oklahoma. I don't think it's that way today but not positive. It would be interesting to know if the 18 or 19 year old's at the Joint base Lewis/McChord south of Tacoma can drink on base.

They can’t the military as a whole as gone with 21. Unless your in a foreign port where the age limit is less, but don’t come back to the ship all jacked up or there will be hell to pay.🤣
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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2025, 05:55:22 PM »
The scary thing is how liberals want to lower the voting age to get more minors to vote their way. I bet if the courts held the voting age to the same as owning a firearm they may change their mind. Honestly the 26th amendment sets a pretty clear age as to when the constitution applies to people.

 


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