collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: School me on Kokes  (Read 19950 times)

Offline Rob

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2009
  • Posts: 4848
  • Location: Sandpoint ID
School me on Kokes
« on: March 04, 2025, 04:50:30 PM »
I plan to learn the local Kokanee fishery here in North Idaho.  Seems like every other lake in the area has a healthy population of Kokes.

I have a couple downriggers and I have picked up some kokanee rods and reels so I should be good on that end.

I have spent the winter buying a selection of small dodgers and cowbell rigs in a variety of colors.  I also picked up some blade flashers (sling blades).

I was told to cure and scent shoepeg corn.  Anise and bloody tuna scents were recomended to me.

I feel weak on lures.  I have a small selection of trolling spoons, hoochie-like things and wedding ring style spinners

I hear trolling speeds between 0.9 and 1.5 are best.  Drop the downriggers to slightly above where I see fish and troll in slow s turns.  Best time is early AM and close to sunset as they are light sensitive.

So what am I missing?  What are your super producing lure/dodger setups?  What scents do you use?
_______________________________________
Sit tall in the saddle, hold you head up high.
Keep your eyes fixed on where the trail meets the sky.
Live like you ain’t afraid to die.
Just sit back and enjoy your ride
  - Chris Ledoux

Offline Oldguy

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2007
  • Posts: 695
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2025, 05:02:53 PM »
I had good luck with small kokanee size flashter with a wedding ring behind it. Shoe peg on hook but I'll have to look to see what else used on hook. Never bothered with scents. Looks like you are off to a good start. Good luck.

Found it. Berkley Power Bait Gulp Maggots. (white)
« Last Edit: March 04, 2025, 05:08:25 PM by Oldguy »

Offline Rob

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2009
  • Posts: 4848
  • Location: Sandpoint ID
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2025, 05:21:30 PM »
Thanks!  I think I have a jar of those power maggots somewhere...
_______________________________________
Sit tall in the saddle, hold you head up high.
Keep your eyes fixed on where the trail meets the sky.
Live like you ain’t afraid to die.
Just sit back and enjoy your ride
  - Chris Ledoux

Offline Limhangerslayer

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 1664
  • Location: Dryside
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2025, 05:51:08 PM »
If your running downriggers drop the ball below the fish and get a bunch of Caribbeaners and run a 18” bumped to a small downrigger clip.  6 oz weight off the Caribbeaner clip and clip on the line.  Your are free to drop and pick up at whatever level they are in quick.  If you get a bite it drops to the bottom and you put on another one.

Offline Oldguy

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2007
  • Posts: 695
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2025, 05:52:35 PM »
One more thing. If you aren't getting strikes, try turning (S) . I think they follow and when you change direction they think it is trying to evade them. At least that is what the last kokanee said when I was taking him off the hook.

Offline Parasite

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2018
  • Posts: 549
  • Location: Olympia
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2025, 05:56:16 PM »
ditch the cowbells. you'll probably lose more fish on those.

Offline 3nails

  • WA State Trappers Association
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 4331
    • Jeff Hinkle
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2025, 05:59:03 PM »
 Save yourself a ton of time and watch Tyler Hicks videos on Youtube. Spilt Milt Productions. Quite possibly the best kokanee fisherman in the country.
Amadeo
https://www.youtube.com/@3nails337

Instagram    3nails_hinkle

Offline Skillet

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+43)
  • Old Salt
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 5823
  • Location: Sitka, AK
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2025, 06:01:40 PM »
One more thing. If you aren't getting strikes, try turning (S) . I think they follow and when you change direction they think it is trying to evade them. At least that is what the last kokanee said when I was taking him off the hook.

Old troller trick.  It's more about alternatively speeding up and slowing down your gear in the water, which gives it different action.   If you're turning to starboard, the starboard gear slows and the port gear speeds up.  Pay attention to which side gets hit in a turn. If inside gets hit, they want to see a slower presentation. If the outside, faster. Adjust accordingly,  you will catch more fish.
KABOOM Count - 1

"The ocean is calling, and I must go."

"Does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?"
     - Gordon Lightfoot

Offline Skillet

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+43)
  • Old Salt
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 5823
  • Location: Sitka, AK
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2025, 06:06:45 PM »
Save yourself a ton of time and watch Tyler Hicks videos on Youtube. Spilt Milt Productions. Quite possibly the best kokanee fisherman in the country.

He's good, but until I see him jigging for them at night I'll refrain from including him in the top tier of koke producers.
KABOOM Count - 1

"The ocean is calling, and I must go."

"Does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?"
     - Gordon Lightfoot

Offline Ghost Hunter

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Apr 2007
  • Posts: 5399
  • Location: SW <-> NE
  • Groups: NRA Patron Life Member, RMEF Life, Sponser Member
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2025, 07:41:22 PM »
Have a boat project going right now I hope to use for kokanee when finished.
Economy failure = Too many people spending money they don't have on things they don't need to impress people they don't like.

Offline baldopepper

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2010
  • Posts: 2604
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2025, 09:35:37 PM »
Biggest problem for me is finding the fish. By that I mean they seem to travel in schools and it can be tough findind and staying over them as they move.  When I get over the schools they seem to hit pretty readily most decent ups, but can spend a lot time fishing dead water.  I've kinda learned to move around with lines ready to go down until I actually see fish on the screen. Couple hundred yards can make a big difference.  Usually fishing pretty shallow so not hard to set up once you find em  I've watched some of the guides cruising along then suddenly whip their boat around with lines going down as they troll back thru the fish they've just spotted

Msn


 
« Last Edit: March 04, 2025, 09:55:35 PM by baldopepper »

Offline Rob

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2009
  • Posts: 4848
  • Location: Sandpoint ID
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2025, 06:37:20 AM »
If your running downriggers drop the ball below the fish and get a bunch of Caribbeaners and run a 18” bumped to a small downrigger clip.  6 oz weight off the Caribbeaner clip and clip on the line.  Your are free to drop and pick up at whatever level they are in quick.  If you get a bite it drops to the bottom and you put on another one.

That is an interesting idea...
_______________________________________
Sit tall in the saddle, hold you head up high.
Keep your eyes fixed on where the trail meets the sky.
Live like you ain’t afraid to die.
Just sit back and enjoy your ride
  - Chris Ledoux

Offline Rob

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2009
  • Posts: 4848
  • Location: Sandpoint ID
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2025, 06:48:59 AM »
Yep - S turns are in my bag of tricks for sure.

I have only fished for Kokes one time and they were pretty thick around 90 feet in the deepest part of the lake.  I only had a few spoons with me as I was really targeting Bass (who were not cooperating).  So my buddy and I did some jigging and picked up a couple.  Now I want to do it right.  We were fishing middle of the day - probably 90 degrees out so not really the best time to target them as I understand it.

Since they are plankton eaters, someone told me I should target the downwind mouths of bays as the wind pushes the plankton in there.  Made sense to me.  But fish are like Elk I guess.  The Elk can be found where the Elk are...

The cowbell rigs I picked up are tiny.  Blades about the size of a mepps spinner.  I tend to agree though - I think a dodger/flasher will be a better choice.  The cowbells will come out if nothing else is working.

Anybody try the Macks Lure Flash Lite Trolling flashers?
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/macks-lure-flash-lite-troll-2-blade

I like that they kinda collapse when reeling them in - feels like one would be less likely to lose fish or detect a bite.

When do people start fishing for Kokanee?  May/June?





_______________________________________
Sit tall in the saddle, hold you head up high.
Keep your eyes fixed on where the trail meets the sky.
Live like you ain’t afraid to die.
Just sit back and enjoy your ride
  - Chris Ledoux

Offline Rob

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2009
  • Posts: 4848
  • Location: Sandpoint ID
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2025, 06:50:35 AM »
Have a boat project going right now I hope to use for kokanee when finished.

I still owe you for the help during Spring Bear a few years back.  We should meet up and try a couple lakes sometime - We are only a couple hours apart from your Summer place (which I am still very jealous of!)
_______________________________________
Sit tall in the saddle, hold you head up high.
Keep your eyes fixed on where the trail meets the sky.
Live like you ain’t afraid to die.
Just sit back and enjoy your ride
  - Chris Ledoux

Offline Rob

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2009
  • Posts: 4848
  • Location: Sandpoint ID
Re: School me on Kokes
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2025, 06:57:35 AM »
Does anyone add a flasher to their downrigger ball?

Something like a Big Al's Flasher?
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/big-als-fish-flash
_______________________________________
Sit tall in the saddle, hold you head up high.
Keep your eyes fixed on where the trail meets the sky.
Live like you ain’t afraid to die.
Just sit back and enjoy your ride
  - Chris Ledoux

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Sportsman Alliance files petition to Gov Ferguson for removal of corrupt WA Wildlife Commissioners by Humptulips
[Today at 01:13:50 PM]


Looking for people to hunt with. by JDArms1240
[Today at 01:12:51 PM]


Primer 157 vs 209 by EnglishSetter
[Today at 11:30:27 AM]


Evergreen youth livestock show and sale by nwwanderer
[Today at 11:06:58 AM]


Selkirk bull moose. by ThunderRolls
[Today at 10:14:52 AM]


2025 Quality Chewuch Tag by elkaholic123
[Today at 08:39:45 AM]


Rotator Cuff repair X 2 advice needed by Wood2Sawdust
[Today at 07:49:52 AM]


Upland Side by Side by OutHouse
[Today at 07:37:28 AM]


Tooth age on Quinault bull by nwwanderer
[Today at 06:54:44 AM]


Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation by JDArms1240
[Yesterday at 08:45:13 PM]


North Peninsula Salmon Fishing by metlhead
[Yesterday at 07:43:57 PM]


3 days for Kings by Stein
[Yesterday at 06:45:11 PM]


Kinda fun LH rimfire rifle project by JDHasty
[Yesterday at 06:44:33 PM]


Can’t fish for pinks area 8-2? by WAcoueshunter
[Yesterday at 05:22:46 PM]


GMU 247 Entiat bear hunting by GeoSwan
[Yesterday at 03:02:21 PM]


2025 NWTF Jakes Day by wadu1
[Yesterday at 02:19:48 PM]


Dandy Bull by Buckhunter24
[Yesterday at 01:29:37 PM]


Tricer AD tripod by gee_unit360
[Yesterday at 12:40:45 PM]


How a Product That Changed Hunting FOREVER was invented in the 1980's by jrebel
[Yesterday at 11:28:44 AM]


Ten Years, and still plugging along by JWBINX
[Yesterday at 10:22:55 AM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal