Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers

[kodiak06]

Wonder if the scum that turn in bait sites will get points??  I’m not talking a truck load of bait, the simple couple arm loads of alfalfa or wet cob.  Wardens could be chasing bait sites instead of poachers.

So an individual turning in a poacher is scum? LMAO...  If you're baiting, you're poaching, no different than any other non-baiting states. Poaching is poaching and it's a sure bonus 10pts for someone lol. Do I think the decision was an overreach on the states part,  yes.

[kodiak06]

People who are impacted by the baiting ban need to look into Troy Pottenger and his methods. Dude kills magnum bucks in NE Washington and N. Idaho with scrape set ups and has talked about it on dozens of podcasts.

I get your point but, he does bait in NE WA...

[kodiak06]

People who are impacted by the baiting ban need to look into Troy Pottenger and his methods. Dude kills magnum bucks in NE Washington and N. Idaho with scrape set ups and has talked about it on dozens of podcasts.

Haven't seen the new rules, but what if lures and scents are considered baiting too?  Similar to bear?

Any natural or synthetic scent that contain or derived from cervid urine or glandular based extracts are banned.  To the hunters that say their pee doesn't bother the deer, spray away.  Maybe the ladies will have better luck.   

Most synthetics are free of those listed and not an issue.

[kodiak06]

Are they going to allow disabled hunters to hunt over bait?

NO

[Feathernfurr]

I’m gonna ruffle some feathers… If you need bait to kill whitetails with a bow, you’re a crappy bowhunter 😂

[boneaddict]

I would think the trail cam folks would be more puckered over it.

[jrebel]

The thing that kills me is......the deer are still going to eat in their family groups.  Whitetail especially all eat the same feed, regardless of bait or natural forage.  We have 5-6 groups of does / fawns that all eat live in the same area.  The eat off the same bushes, grasses, ect.  You can watch one group eat and walk off....just to see another group in that same area eating and drinking out of the same exact spot.  This isn't going to stop the spread of anything in my humble opinion, but is otherwise one more controlling factor WDFW and the Commission have on hunters. 

If anything.....it is going to harm these deer during the winter when they benefit from supplemental feed.   

[hunter399]

I’m gonna ruffle some feathers… If you need bait to kill whitetails with a bow, you’re a crappy bowhunter 😂

Wow....lol
I'm not to offended,cause I don't bow hunt.
So I can't agree or disagree.
I've seen some giant,stud,masher bucks killed in late bow season over bait. They don't get posted to this site .
GIANT WT,some bigger than I've ever seen posted on here.

[hunter399]

I was talking to a bow hunting friend the other day.
Asked him if was gonna change up to modern due to no bait possibly becoming a law. He pretty much said no,and would stick to private land and bait there.
This really only hurts public land hunting.

[baldopepper]

Gotta say one thing I don't like about baiting.and feeding is that it makes life a little easier for predators.  It's no coincidence that so many trail.cams set over bait get pictures of lions and other predators.  They figure out fairly quickly those gathering areas.. Used to put out a little bird seed for quail around the yard, but had to keep dispatching the feral housecats that would hide waiting for the birds to gather.  Don't think for a minute that the big predators don't figure that out just like the housecats.

[jrebel]

Gotta say one thing I don't like about baiting.and feeding is that it makes life a little easier for predators.  It's no coincidence that so many trail.cams set over bait get pictures of lions and other predators.  They figure out fairly quickly those gathering areas.. Used to put out a little bird seed for quail around the yard, but had to keep dispatching the feral housecats that would hide waiting for the birds to gather.  Don't think for a minute that the big predators don't figure that out just like the housecats.

I get just as many predators on camera off bait as I do on bait.  Matter of fact, the only predator picture I have carrying a fawn away is no where near any bait.  I hear what you are saying.....but anecdotally, I'm not sure I agree.  Our predator problem is so robust....they don't need the help of bait to find critters to kill.  I run a lot of cameras on private and public lands, all of them get predators (wolf, bear, cats).....most with no bait near (that I know of). 

[PsoasHunter]

When baiting is illegal aren't those that continue to hunt over bait poachers?
I'm guessing this will catch a lot of people by surprise - if I didn't follow HW i wouldn't know anything about this.

I guess I don’t see a guy putting a salt block, alfalfa , or wet cob down as a poacher.  I see stupid laws being passed in this state by left wing f tards, and when I feel it’s an over reach, I don’t just get in line or put on a stupid mask on because “they” said so.

Great mindset, that's probably what market hunters thought when Roosevelt and Leopold were defining the current model of conservation. Bending the rules to your benefit is still poaching, even if you don't think it's a big deal.

Also, it's good to remember that science isn't political. Congregating animals leads to easier disease spread. This is pretty basic biology science. If you rant on another thread about how much WDFW mismanages our game and reduces opportunity, then it's pretty hypocritical and short sighted to bash them for trying to minimize the short and long term effects of CWD in our state.   

[baldopepper]

Gotta say one thing I don't like about baiting.and feeding is that it makes life a little easier for predators.  It's no coincidence that so many trail.cams set over bait get pictures of lions and other predators.  They figure out fairly quickly those gathering areas.. Used to put out a little bird seed for quail around the yard, but had to keep dispatching the feral housecats that would hide waiting for the birds to gather.  Don't think for a minute that the big predators don't figure that out just like the housecats.

I get just as many predators on camera off bait as I do on bait.  Matter of fact, the only predator picture I have carrying a fawn away is no where near any bait.  I hear what you are saying.....but anecdotally, I'm not sure I agree.  Our predator problem is so robust....they don't need the help of bait to find critters to kill.  I run a lot of cameras on private and public lands, all of them get predators (wolf, bear, cats).....most with no bait near (that I know of).

I think predators are like sharks (and highway patrol)  It's not the ones you see you gotta worry about.  We've certainly got our share, but I know we're seeing more cats, both live and on trail cams,since my neighbor started heavily feeding the deer 4-5 years ago. The way they bunch up around his place in the winter especially has got to be too tempting for lions.
 

[buckcanyonlodge]

" I don’t just get in line or put on a stupid mask on because “they” said so." I like that.  Are they going to use aircraft to break up the herds of whitetails feeding on the south slopes like they are now??  I love to feed the squirrels. Coyotes like to eat cob also., along with the turkeys.....legal?? How will they find the small food plots
 and bait piles hunters use to kill deer? . If they think that deer only congregate by hunters food piles they need to look closer at alfalfa growers fields. I can see it now....No hunting with alfalfa bait within 1 mile of orchards, alfalfa fields, or other food plots......even for the owners of the property. Deer will still congregate on prime food sources..   Going to be a lot of SQUEARLERS. All owners of good hunting land will close their land to hunting to prevent being squealed on for having a pile of 5 apples next to their chicken coop.Did they do an Economic Study to see how this is going to effect the stores that sell cob and other deer products year round? I do think that is the law.At least it was when they did the 4 point or better restriction. No more money for hunting licenses from this family. I used to feed deer at my house.  the only dead deer I have seen are the ones killed by cougars  25 to 150 yrds of my house . F "UM 

[kodiak06]

I was talking to a bow hunting friend the other day.
Asked him if was gonna change up to modern due to no bait possibly becoming a law. He pretty much said no,and would stick to private land and bait there.
This really only hurts public land hunting.

It's gonna hurt the pocket book of a guy hunting private land if he gets caught. Poaching is still poaching...
Unless they're clueless to whitetail hunting, they won't need bait.