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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #75 on: April 02, 2025, 01:36:01 PM »
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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #76 on: April 02, 2025, 03:30:01 PM »
Man I can understand yalls frustration over lost opportunity or the idea that banning bait won’t have an impact on cwd. But if you think hunting is ruined because you can’t bait, then you just aren’t that passionate or you’re not willing to out in work. I guarantee i’ve spent more time in a treestand than most here, never once have I thought I was sitting around praying it would work out. I’ve seen and shot way more animals from a stand on a regular basis hunting funnels and trails to natural feed sources, hunting edges of known bedding areas, etc. bait is not the only way to kill animals, and it is absolutely the lowest hanging fruit in terms of methods. I can understand the sentiment that it’s for kids and handicap folks, but I still know plenty of those folks killing animals not over bait. This is one of the last states holding out on baiting, and definitely the last state you can bait elk. Washington is behind the times on this law and I promise you that there’s plenty of people out there passing on woodsmanship and the true craft of hunting and bait is not in that playbook.

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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #77 on: April 02, 2025, 06:02:42 PM »
This is sounding like 2 weeks to shorten the curve bs
https://www.howlforwildlife.org/take_action  It takes 10 seconds and it’s free. To easy to make an excuse not to make your voice heard!!!!!!

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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #78 on: April 02, 2025, 06:21:49 PM »
Man I can understand yalls frustration over lost opportunity or the idea that banning bait won’t have an impact on cwd. But if you think hunting is ruined because you can’t bait, then you just aren’t that passionate or you’re not willing to out in work. I guarantee i’ve spent more time in a treestand than most here, never once have I thought I was sitting around praying it would work out. I’ve seen and shot way more animals from a stand on a regular basis hunting funnels and trails to natural feed sources, hunting edges of known bedding areas, etc. bait is not the only way to kill animals, and it is absolutely the lowest hanging fruit in terms of methods. I can understand the sentiment that it’s for kids and handicap folks, but I still know plenty of those folks killing animals not over bait. This is one of the last states holding out on baiting, and definitely the last state you can bait elk. Washington is behind the times on this law and I promise you that there’s plenty of people out there passing on woodsmanship and the true craft of hunting and bait is not in that playbook.

Been hunting for most of my adult life except my military time
Never once hunted over bait
Done fine

But I do enjoy putting out a block and game cam in my yard

Sadly that’s over

I don’t shoot yard deer either
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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #79 on: April 03, 2025, 06:14:56 AM »
I can see it now, people selling wet cob or Alf alfa in the Andersons parking lot after hours like crack. :chuckle:

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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #80 on: April 03, 2025, 06:54:29 AM »
Man I can understand yalls frustration over lost opportunity or the idea that banning bait won’t have an impact on cwd. But if you think hunting is ruined because you can’t bait, then you just aren’t that passionate or you’re not willing to out in work. I guarantee i’ve spent more time in a treestand than most here, never once have I thought I was sitting around praying it would work out. I’ve seen and shot way more animals from a stand on a regular basis hunting funnels and trails to natural feed sources, hunting edges of known bedding areas, etc. bait is not the only way to kill animals, and it is absolutely the lowest hanging fruit in terms of methods. I can understand the sentiment that it’s for kids and handicap folks, but I still know plenty of those folks killing animals not over bait. This is one of the last states holding out on baiting, and definitely the last state you can bait elk. Washington is behind the times on this law and I promise you that there’s plenty of people out there passing on woodsmanship and the true craft of hunting and bait is not in that playbook.

Been hunting for most of my adult life except my military time
Never once hunted over bait
Done fine

But I do enjoy putting out a block and game cam in my yard

Sadly that’s over

I don’t shoot yard deer either

over for you and not the thousands of people who dont hunt and will continue to feed deer

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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #81 on: April 03, 2025, 08:09:05 AM »
This is sounding like 2 weeks to shorten the curve bs
Lol.....lol... 😂

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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #82 on: April 03, 2025, 08:16:32 AM »
Man I can understand yalls frustration over lost opportunity or the idea that banning bait won’t have an impact on cwd. But if you think hunting is ruined because you can’t bait, then you just aren’t that passionate or you’re not willing to out in work. I guarantee i’ve spent more time in a treestand than most here, never once have I thought I was sitting around praying it would work out. I’ve seen and shot way more animals from a stand on a regular basis hunting funnels and trails to natural feed sources, hunting edges of known bedding areas, etc. bait is not the only way to kill animals, and it is absolutely the lowest hanging fruit in terms of methods. I can understand the sentiment that it’s for kids and handicap folks, but I still know plenty of those folks killing animals not over bait. This is one of the last states holding out on baiting, and definitely the last state you can bait elk. Washington is behind the times on this law and I promise you that there’s plenty of people out there passing on woodsmanship and the true craft of hunting and bait is not in that playbook.

Been hunting for most of my adult life except my military time
Never once hunted over bait
Done fine

But I do enjoy putting out a block and game cam in my yard

Sadly that’s over

I don’t shoot yard deer either

over for you and not the thousands of people who dont hunt and will continue to feed deer
Im not gonna say , I've never hunted over bait.
Biggest tool in the tool box to scout out new spots. When I did hunt near a bait spot,it was just to do a rattling setup for an hour or so.
I can't just sit there all day, everyone has a method behind the madness. I'm sure I'll survive without bait spots.

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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #83 on: April 03, 2025, 08:31:13 AM »
Never hunted with bait.  That does not matter.  This is just the States next nail in the coffin of hunting.  Seperate E/W elk tag.  I676 no more hounds.  Wolfs. Cougar Quota.  No Spring bear. No Bait.  Just like Jonny Cashing building a Cadillac, 1 piece at a time,   

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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #84 on: April 03, 2025, 09:27:20 AM »
I can see it now, people selling wet cob or Alf alfa in the Andersons parking lot after hours like crack. :chuckle:
Old Wally world/wallfart....... I mean Walmart will still have a pallet of corn . Right in your teeth,front and center in the hunting section.
This fall season will be like leaving the bar at closing time,one kernal of corn and your done.....busted .
« Last Edit: April 03, 2025, 09:47:00 AM by hunter399 »

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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #85 on: April 03, 2025, 09:46:42 AM »
I know you guys are just looking at the loss of being able to bait whitetails but the bigger implication is going to be supplemental feeding of our elk in central Washington. They are going to have to stop feeding the Yakima herd and doing so the WDFW is going to have to significantly reduce the size of that herd. They already said they are looking at doing just that. Tell me that makes sense when the only cases we’ve found are in the NE corner of our state. Would CWD if it ever is found in our elk herds kill more elk than what they would have to reduce that herd if they stop feeding them?

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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #86 on: April 03, 2025, 10:03:23 AM »
I know you guys are just looking at the loss of being able to bait whitetails but the bigger implication is going to be supplemental feeding of our elk in central Washington. They are going to have to stop feeding the Yakima herd and doing so the WDFW is going to have to significantly reduce the size of that herd. They already said they are looking at doing just that. Tell me that makes sense when the only cases we’ve found are in the NE corner of our state. Would CWD if it ever is found in our elk herds kill more elk than what they would have to reduce that herd if they stop feeding them?
They feed those elk to reduce property damage. The same concept for whitetail as well. There is a lot of supplement feeding in the NE from hunter and non-hunters that have benefited this state resources. Has helped keep hunting alive here, sustainable population in the NE. Even though we have CWD here,the benefits from feeding out weigh the disease. Deer/elk are social animals,they will feed together whatever that food source is..

I was watching an elk herd just the other day ,that had five whitetail mixed in with the herd. They will be together and spread CWD regardless of food sources.

I really don't believe they will stop feeding at the feed station.
It's just bad public relations , something they feel needs to be discussed. They already exempted themselves from the law,to be able to feed those elk . They did that for a reason,they are just waiting for the smoke to clear out.
My opinion bait bans or reducing the elk herd will not stop CWD.
So might as well feed them. It's not right to slaughter half of a elk herd for a few positive cases . Just like it isn't right for a statewide bait ban ,we have GMU for a reason. That's so special rules can be applied to different areas.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2025, 10:18:40 AM by hunter399 »

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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #87 on: April 03, 2025, 10:13:43 AM »
I know you guys are just looking at the loss of being able to bait whitetails but the bigger implication is going to be supplemental feeding of our elk in central Washington. They are going to have to stop feeding the Yakima herd and doing so the WDFW is going to have to significantly reduce the size of that herd. They already said they are looking at doing just that. Tell me that makes sense when the only cases we’ve found are in the NE corner of our state. Would CWD if it ever is found in our elk herds kill more elk than what they would have to reduce that herd if they stop feeding them?

Good thing they're already issuing tags as if the herd was 1/4 of what it actually is I guess :chuckle: in all seriousness, they won't stop feeding they've already exempted themselves. And elk are still thriving in CWD hot zones all over the west so I doubt it will have that significant of an impact on numbers when it does show up in this part of the state.

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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #88 on: April 03, 2025, 10:28:58 AM »
Let’s just turn all of Washington into one big GMU because that’s how it’s being managed. Ban ALL spring bear tags, ban ALL baiting, now lets cull ALL big herds because of cwd. Let’s give EVERYONE moose tags because they have some points and complain.

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Re: Guessing there will be a drop in whitatail archers
« Reply #89 on: April 04, 2025, 02:14:00 PM »
I enjoyed getting pictures of deer by putting out salt and/or bait. However, I've never seen a bruiser whitetail near a bait site. It sounds to me that the CWD excuse is a subterfuge for another agenda. So is bait per se illegal regardless of intent? What if you are baiting solely to get pictures? Is that off the table or only if it is related to hunting?

 


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