Written permission only question

[Armadillo]

you dont have to step away, just change the water every once in awhile 

[mossback91]

I LIKE THE CARS, THE CARS THAT GO BOOM, WITH ZIGYY AND BUNNY AND I LIKE THE BOOM!

Miles you aint supposed to drink the whole bottle of whiskey in one sitting all on your own man

[FISHBOY]

Looks like Annie got a hold of Miles' password......

[GrainfedMuley]

 MILES.......................WHY ARE YOU YELLING?   

[Skyvalhunter]

Because he is hard of hearing.

[huntnphool]

 One very big problem for hunters these days are the outfitters leasing the best properties. Land owners will seldom let others hunt or even use their land as access if a outfitter has leased it. Unfortuneatly the way the economy has been, and the price per head ranchers get for cattle has dropped, the land owners need the extra income from these leases so they don't want to risk the outfitters dropping the lease. I know several land owners that repeatedly turned down outfitters wanting to lease their lands for hunting but now have to because they need the extra money.

 I have been contemplating paying the money my friends get from the outfitters myself just to lock up the land for myself and friends, kind of a hunt club. Then whenever we draw we have a great place to go hunt with loads of critters. I figure it would cost each of us about $1000/year but to me would be well worth it for all involved. The outfitter takes way more animals off the land than we would so what is already a fantastic hunt would be even better.

[Pathfinder101]

Phool, that may be where we are heaed here in the west.  Kind of sad to see it happen.  I know most of the decent hunting land in the southeast is locked up that way.  Almost impossible to get a good hunt in a lot of southern states unless you belong to a hunting club.  Most hunters I knew in Mississippi, Alabama and Tennessee had a lease payment each month, like a car payment.  They just considered it part of the sport.
I know we have a lot more public land here in the west than there is in other parts of the country, but I remember being stationed in the south, seeing the situation, and longing for Washington state where I could knock on a farmer's door and if I was polite and offered to help mend a fence I could usually gain access (at least for the day).

[Buckwheat]

butter them with some salmon

[nw_bowhunter]

A lot of great areas I enjoy hunting were "ask for permission" but now are controlled by leased by outfitters. It sucks!  When I called to find out much I was very surprised to be told 3k and up. At one time it did not cost me more than a gift to the farmer. I just move on and look for other opportunity. I do like it when the state takes parcels of land above the private areas and makes it walk in only areas. I found these types of area to be pretty productive during archery season.

[lazydrifter]

salmon doesn't work anymore.  We've had people show us a freezer full.   We lease property.  We have a good hunt every year.  Next time you knock on a door instead of just asking for permssion tell em you'd like to lease the hunting rights.  I bet you get invited in.  They like us being the only party there.  They don't have to patrol it.  We watch for outsiders.  We don't leave garbage.  We don't leave gates open.  It works good for both of us.

[SHANE(WA)]

very few if any leased north of spokane to canada