Be carefull who you tell...............

[runamuk]

Hunting is teaching me how to keep secrets and lie....   not sure this is such a good thing   

[dontgetcrabs]

Don't tell my father-in-law anything.   

[miah]

I hear ya, the day after I shot my bull and unfortunatly never found it, there were 10 million fr's in there. I've been hunting in there for 8 years and it just multiplies every year. that spot is no longer a secret, everyone in the country knows about it. Than you get all these f n new comers that claim they been hunting there forever,( not.)

[GreenHunter]

I grew up in Texas where there is almost zero public land so I find it funny that you are guys complaining about not being able to keep your part of the public land secret. It is public land...and all the more impressive that you can get a kill with everyone else nearby. In Texas you pay for a hunting lease and then share it with those same jacka$$es you are complaining about here. There are many hunters that really don't understand the hunting tradition and give hunting a bad name at the same time as piss off the good hunters. I for one am not one of them and I expect there are a few others like me on this forum.

Personally, I find it frustrating that you seem to be saying that since my family has not hunted here for generations, I shouldn't get recommendations about where to hunt in general or an opportunity to hunt private land.

I plan to raise my family in this state and I will find some good hunting spots to pass down that tradition. So far it has been by trial and error. Honestly, more error than trial but I will keep looking for the good spots (that may already be occupied by you).

I would like to thank many of the old salts on this forum that have shared some very good information. This is an amazing state for numerous reasons. The access to public lands and variety of game are way up on the list for me.

[NWBREW]

I grew up in Texas where there is almost zero public land so I find it funny that you are guys complaining about not being able to keep your part of the public land secret. It is public land...and all the more impressive that you can get a kill with everyone else nearby. In Texas you pay for a hunting lease and then share it with those same jacka$$es you are complaining about here. There are many hunters that really don't understand the hunting tradition and give hunting a bad name at the same time as piss off the good hunters. I for one am not one of them and I expect there are a few others like me on this forum.

Personally, I find it frustrating that you seem to be saying that since my family has not hunted here for generations, I shouldn't get recommendations about where to hunt in general or an opportunity to hunt private land.

I plan to raise my family in this state and I will find some good hunting spots to pass down that tradition. So far it has been by trial and error. Honestly, more error than trial but I will keep looking for the good spots (that may already be occupied by you).

I would like to thank many of the old salts on this forum that have shared some very good information. This is an amazing state for numerous reasons. The access to public lands and variety of game are way up on the list for me.

I think your missing the point here. I don't think anyone is denying that public lands are here for us all to hunt. It is when you take a buddy along and hope he can keep it quite because it is a GOOD hunting spot. When you spend a few days, or weeks, or months, or even years in some instantses you kind offf like to recieve the fruits of your own labor. I have shared info. with many people and will continue to do so. I think what most people are talking about here is when some take it to the extreme and you can actually get pushed out of a place you have done all the homework in.   I too have lived in TX. and I know what you are talking about. And you are right that this a great state to live in. I just think you may have misunderstood what most were trying to convay. If you showed up at a place I like to hunt....that's fine.  If I showed you my honey hole and said keep this place quite   and next year you were there with 10 of your other buddies and five of thier brothers....not so much.

[Skillet]

I grew up in Texas where there is almost zero public land so I find it funny that you are guys complaining about not being able to keep your part of the public land secret. It is public land...and all the more impressive that you can get a kill with everyone else nearby. In Texas you pay for a hunting lease and then share it with those same jacka$$es you are complaining about here. There are many hunters that really don't understand the hunting tradition and give hunting a bad name at the same time as piss off the good hunters. I for one am not one of them and I expect there are a few others like me on this forum.

Personally, I find it frustrating that you seem to be saying that since my family has not hunted here for generations, I shouldn't get recommendations about where to hunt in general or an opportunity to hunt private land.

I plan to raise my family in this state and I will find some good hunting spots to pass down that tradition. So far it has been by trial and error. Honestly, more error than trial but I will keep looking for the good spots (that may already be occupied by you).

I would like to thank many of the old salts on this forum that have shared some very good information. This is an amazing state for numerous reasons. The access to public lands and variety of game are way up on the list for me.

I have a few spots that I have earned by wearing out boot leather.  You are doing the same, and no matter what state you're from - there isn't a damn thing wrong with that.  In fact, many would argue that is what it's all about... I think what these guys are (rightfully) bemoaning is the scrubs that you share your hard earned spot with and they treat it with the same respect they do anything else that is just given to them.  A great hunting spot is worth exactly what you put into it. If that sounds weird, believe me, you'll know that when you have to decide who to share them with.
I got burned for the last time this fall from a person I expected it the least from.  Never again.

[Gutpile]

I grew up in Texas where there is almost zero public land so I find it funny that you are guys complaining about not being able to keep your part of the public land secret. It is public land...and all the more impressive that you can get a kill with everyone else nearby. In Texas you pay for a hunting lease and then share it with those same jacka$$es you are complaining about here. There are many hunters that really don't understand the hunting tradition and give hunting a bad name at the same time as piss off the good hunters. I for one am not one of them and I expect there are a few others like me on this forum.

Personally, I find it frustrating that you seem to be saying that since my family has not hunted here for generations, I shouldn't get recommendations about where to hunt in general or an opportunity to hunt private land.

I plan to raise my family in this state and I will find some good hunting spots to pass down that tradition. So far it has been by trial and error. Honestly, more error than trial but I will keep looking for the good spots (that may already be occupied by you).

I would like to thank many of the old salts on this forum that have shared some very good information. This is an amazing state for numerous reasons. The access to public lands and variety of game are way up on the list for me.

Your missing the point completely. When you share a secret with someone in this state it's a secret. It's your find. You did all of the work and scouting and it's a giant slap in the face when someone brings a bunch of people to a spot that you have discovered through many years of scouting. Thats the rule here regardless of what happens in Texas. You simply don't kiss and tell. If someone shows you a secret spot and you bring in others you've just comitted the cardinal sin. It doesn't matter whether it's public or private. If I show a newb a piece of great ground and he brings anybody else there without me there's gonna be a bit of an argument. Just trying to save you some future grief. Thats the way it's done here.

[MichaelJ]

Your missing the point completely. When you share a secret with someone in this state it's a secret. It's your find. You did all of the work and scouting and it's a giant slap in the face when someone brings a bunch of people to a spot that you have discovered through many years of scouting. Thats the rule here regardless of what happens in Texas. You simply don't kiss and tell. If someone shows you a secret spot and you bring in others you've just comitted the cardinal sin. It doesn't matter whether it's public or private. If I show a newb a piece of great ground and he brings anybody else there without me there's gonna be a bit of an argument. Just trying to save you some future grief. Thats the way it's done here.

I agree totally...

Situation A:  if you ask somebody "hey where's a good place to start hunting"... You'll know if you can share the spot by if they say "Leave from X_______ trailhead, hike in 5.43 miles, there will be a drainage on your left and one on your right, hike into the west side of the left drainage and glass the upper 2/3rds of that ridge first light/last light and during the day glass the top of the ridge"....etc

Situation B:  If they say "Yeah, a good area to start is the SouthEnd of the X______ wilderness, a few trailheads you can try are X_______ and X_______ glass, glass glass and once again, glass the shadows!  Good luck!"

Situation A:  That is a honey hole, make sure and ask him if he wants it kept under the radar, most of the time the source will say exactly that...

Situation B:  Hey man, go find a honey hole and heed the advice given!

Michael

[GreenHunter]

Alright, I agree that I missed the main point of the thread but from my perspective I read too much into it.

[dbllunger]

Happens all the time.  Nope I say nothing other then the state I killed it in.  Or if I do say an area you can bet it was not the correct one.  To each his own, but good hunting areas are hard to find, and even harder to keep the hordes out of.  And yes it only takes a couple people to totally change an area or animal movement.

[johnsc6]

feel your pain.......I,ve been burned several times by "friends" and relatives, I believe that if an aquantance takes you to an area he/she has scouted and or discovered, I will not go back to that spot without them.

[bankwalker]

I found a pretty decent NE WA Elk spot a few years back but unfortunately when the season opened I wasn't the only one who knew about it and it was a zoo. I had brought a friend with me and showed him the spot and that ARSHOLE brought not 1, not 2, not 3 but 5 people up to that spot this year for the archery season. Then he had the audacity to call me and complain that "people need to keep there mouths shut when they find these spots because they're getting too crowded" I said "Like YOU!!" He didn't understand why he shouldn't tell every Tom Dick and Harry either. Sumbitch pissed me off.

So now if the rule of 7 hold true thats gonna be another 30 friggin people who know this spot. I'm pissed. Thats the LAST time I show that guy ANY hunting spots.

Thats my "fall back" spot if I can't go to the blues during the elk season now I guess I need to find another one.

Just wanted to vent.

i gave 3 guys the location os my "secret" spot for this archery season. and i am not looking forward to next year. becuase these 3 guys all tagged out so i know they are forsure gonna be back. and they all 3 seen alot of elk there, and nothing in the surrounding area. which was the exact same case last season when i found the spot. there were alot of elk there but not in the area surrounding this little marsh


damn im dumb