Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"

[dontgetcrabs]

The one that shoots good.    

[yorketransport]

I'm a Savage guy. All of the Savages I've owned have shot under MOA, no matter what caliber, out of the box. Some will go much better. The LRPV just has to be seen to be believed. Mine is bone stock and averages .25" 5 shot groups at 100yds with some going much smaller.

Andrew

[GEARHEAD]

LOL, not gonna read all those pages, my vote is for big green, mdl700. my cdl 300wsm, shoots factory federal accubonds in under 4 inches at 478 yards.

[Elk-aholic]

I own a few rifles... Sako's, Remington's and browning's but I think the most accurate rifle I have ever owned out of the box is my Thompson Pro Hunter 300 WIN MAG. It's a single shot break action rifle with a heavy 28 inch stainless fluted barrel. I got this sweetheart at cabelas in Lacey for around $730 out the door. I understand that other companies around might produce a higher quality more accurate hunting rifle but I think for the average working man's budget you would be hard pressed to find a better rifle out of the box as far as accuracy goes, I can cover 3 shots at 100 yards with a 50 cent piece it loves 180gr bullets. As far as mountain rifles go I will put my Weatherby MK V Ultra lightweight against anyother ultralight rifle on the market, Weatherby is the only company that gives a accuracy guarantee on a lightweight rifle as far as I know. the Kimber Montana and Remington 700 Titanium along with the browning TI are all fine rifles but they  don't come in the 257 Weatherby mag!

[robescc]

If you want an accurate gun out of the box, buy a savage.  My advice is buy a pawnshop beeter Rem 700 and take it to Ron at Benchark Barrels in Silvana.  The barrel and install will run you about $500, but it will be the most accurate rifle you have ever seen.  My 300 win mag shoots under 1/4 minute out to about 700 yards and under 1/2 minute out to 1000 yards

Benchmark Barrels  360-652-2594

[addicted]

but thats not out of the box anymore 

[Alchase]

If you want an accurate gun out of the box, buy a savage.  My advice is buy a pawnshop beeter Rem 700 and take it to Ron at Benchark Barrels in Silvana.  The barrel and install will run you about $500, but it will be the most accurate rifle you have ever seen.  My 300 win mag shoots under 1/4 minute out to about 700 yards and under 1/2 minute out to 1000 yards

Benchmark Barrels  360-652-2594

Calculating Minute of Angle
The angle of an arc is expressed in number of degrees. There are 360 degrees of arc to a full circle. Each degree consists of 60 minutes of arc. The distance covered by the measure of arc is relative to the circumference (total distance around the circle) it is contained within. Knowing the radius (distance to center of circle) circumference is easily calculated by using the constant pi . The ratio (represented by pi ) of circumference is constant to diameter (radius x 2) regardless of circle size. The precise value of pi is so far unknown to man but is normally resolved to 3.1416 or 3.141 for our purposes.


Suppose a circle with a 6 inch radius. Circumference can be calculated as:

circumference = (radius x 2) x pi
circumference = (6 x 2) x 3.1416
circumference = 12 x 3.1416
circumference = 37.6992 inches

The distance covered by 1 degree of angle (37.6992 / 360 or, circumference divided by 360 degrees) is 0.1047 inch at 6 inches from center of circle.
And, 1 minute of angle represents (0.1047 / 60 or, 1 degree divided by 60 minutes) 0.001745 inch at 6 inches from center of circle.

Knowing what MOA represents allows us to calculate its value to any distance.
Six inches (the radius of the above example) is 1/600th of 100 yards: (100 yards x 36 inches) / 6 inches = 600
Therefore, the value of MOA at 100 yards is 1.047 inches (0.001745 x 600 = 1.047)
At 50 yards 1/2 the 100 yard value; 70% @ 70 yards; twice @ 200 yards; 6 times @ 600 yards; and so on.
So, the difference between thinking in inches as opposed to MOA is 0.47 inch @ 1000 yards.


In June 2004, this 6 Dasher in a "Baby Tracker" stock set a new 6-target NBRSA 1000-yard Light Gun Aggregate world record of 6.125". Richard writes:
"Check this out! I hope you can read the awards in the photo. This took place at Byers, CO on June 26 & 27. My 11-lb Baby Tracker-stocked Nesika 'J' in 6 Dasher shooting 106 Clinch Rivers took:

Light Gun Group, six-target Agg---6.125"
Light Gun Score, six-target Agg---276
Light Gun High single-target Score---50-2X
Light Gun Small single target group---4.000"
Heavy Gun Small single target Group---7.032"

The 6.125" six target light gun agg is a new NBRSA World Record beating the one set by Tim North last September at Byers, CO also riding a Shehane 1000L Tracker.

Obviously not stockers

[jeepasaurusrex]

My brain hurts after reading all that. 

We had to lean that in the Army.

[norsepeak]

for hunting what's more important, a 3 or 5 shot "group" or a one shot cold bore shot that's dead on?  being able to group is great for winning beers at the range, but as the barrel heats is it really an accurate representation of hunting?  An accurate hunting rifle should be able to consistintly be able to put the first cold bore shot in the same spot. IMO.  That being said the only brand new rifle I've bought was my 270 Allen Mag.  It shoots .5 moa all day long, but not exactly the kind of rifle we're talking about here...

[huntncoug]

All you Tikka fans need to try another gunshop besides Kesselrings!  Every time I go into that place whether I am shopping for a shotgun or rifle they try to sell me a tikka!  They must be getting a hell of a factory kick back!

[Alchase]

for hunting what's more important, a 3 or 5 shot "group" or a one shot cold bore shot that's dead on?  being able to group is great for winning beers at the range, but as the barrel heats is it really an accurate representation of hunting?  An accurate hunting rifle should be able to consistently be able to put the first cold bore shot in the same spot. IMO.  That being said the only brand new rifle I've bought was my 270 Allen Mag.  It shoots .5 moa all day long, but not exactly the kind of rifle we're talking about here...

Here is my take on your question,

If you have the capability to shoot good 5 shot groups consistently, that would lead one to believe that you have researched the possible bullet/load combination that shoots the best in your weapon and practiced often enough to get to that point. This would also increase the chances of making an "accurate cold bore first shot".
So you could say one can lead to the other.

 

[Jamieb]

I read the cold bore shot crap all the time. If a rifles bedding is done right, the action is stress free, and the bbl is free floated or in some cases neutrally bedded then a rifle will shoot to the same point of impact cold, warm, or hot. If the point of impact changes as the bbl warms up then there's a bedding or floating problem.

[Buckmark]

My rifle, i'll put it in a box for you..

[C-Money]

Browning A-bolt

[fishcrazy]

I read the cold bore shot crap all the time. If a rifles bedding is done right, the action is stress free, and the bbl is free floated or in some cases neutrally bedded then a rifle will shoot to the same point of impact cold, warm, or hot. If the point of impact changes as the bbl warms up then there's a bedding or floating problem.

Buy a cheap used Rem 700. Take it to a good gun smith and have a custom barrel put on and maybe a good stock and trigger job. Have it biult to fit you. Then it will out shoot you on yer best day. It really don't cost that much. Probably about what you would pay for one of them ugly Tikka rifles. 

Kris