What would you do?

[highside74]

They make it for Blackies now. I would highly recommend a tree stand. If you can get in to it silently you will have your buck in a short time. I just bought a climber myself. Climbed up Saturday afternoon and killed a little button buck...(walking back to the car with my stand on my back of course  ) You can PM me if you dont have a stand and want to use it for the rest of the season. It a pretty nice climber (Gorilla makes decent stuff).

scents....what brand do you recommend, where can i find it? I see stuff on the google but lots of different names.

Haus, Stop buy Rainier Archery in Graham he has plenty on Blacktail urine. I believe he still has some dominant buck left. Thats what I would use. To late in the season for doe pee I think.

[lemondog]

Not too late for Doe pee! This is a stud buck and some does come in in December if they did not get bred and he knows it. Tree stand and scent set up correctly will nail him. O, ya thing I hate about blacktail.....you have to sit in the rain!! I have a nice tree stand set up you can use if you like just send a PM....

[JackOfAllTrades]

I'd put a doe or buck decoy out on the edge of that thick stuff with a little doe scent and a natural ground blind in an elevated position that provides a shooting lane and stick his ass!

If he's still rubbin, he's got does in heat. If he's got does, he's not going to want an intruder.

-Steve

[haus]

Hell of an offer AKbowman. This place rocks.

I gave him a pm hug     

[haus]

Not too late for Doe pee! This is a stud buck and some does come in in December if they did not get bred and he knows it. Tree stand and scent set up correctly will nail him. O, ya thing I hate about blacktail.....you have to sit in the rain!! I have a nice tree stand set up you can use if you like just send a PM....

dang, why are ya'll so nice? 
thanks!  ...ya'll just want the tenderloins huh? 

no treestand, ya'll made it clear its the way to go, but I know my shooting ability, i just started slinging arrows so to speak and I told myself if I hunt with this much shooting experience I'm only shootin close and on level ground. My max pin is 30yards, pulled the others out of the way. I can hit consistent at 40yards but I figured -10 for hunting situation, adrenaline. Can't knock a guy for knowing his limitations.

30yards max from the ground, ya cold chance in hell I know I get it. 6'7" tryin' to draw back even.....lol. gonna be a real slow draw.....

Appreciate all the other advice about scents and such, I'll give them a shot. Just got Friday off from work so 3 straight days to hunt this thing. getting a cam too just be sure, if I don't see him I'll at least know what I'm missin' out on 

This weeks gonna go by so slow
rain all week though thank god, sat-sun ground was so damn noisy, plus it was so clam out I could hear a lil tweety bird 40yards away in the bushes.

[haus]

I'd put a doe or buck decoy out on the edge of that thick stuff with a little doe scent and a natural ground blind in an elevated position that provides a shooting lane and stick his ass!

If he's still rubbin, he's got does in heat. If he's got does, he's not going to want an intruder.

-Steve

  ...just thinkin bout packin a decoy on foot a couple of miles, be so funny to see someone walkin down a road with one 

good idea though, i've seen it used on whitetails. wonder what a blackie would think of one.

[PA BEN]

Shooting from a tree is ez. At 15 to 25 yds w/a fast bow you will hit where you aim, maybe 1 to 2" high. I would stand on the roof of my house and shoot my target. You do have to aim a little low from a tree, and when a deer jumps the string they will squat. I've shot over there back from trees if they jump the string.   

[haus]

Shooting from a tree is ez. At 15 to 25 yds w/a fast bow you will hit where you aim, maybe 1 to 2" high. I would stand on the roof of my house and shoot my target. You do have to aim a little low from a tree, and when a deer jumps the string they will squat. I've shot over there back from trees if they jump the string.   

Is a reflex grizzly at 30" draw a fast bow? Crono was in 260's fps with the practice tips, that low or high?

[PA BEN]

That will work, I've shot deer w/a 55 lb recurve and a 68 lb long bow from trees no problem.

[lokidog]

Any hunting bow setup will work from a tree stand.  The trick is to remember to visualize the trajectory of your arrow.  From the side (level) if you want your arrow to go through the middle, you aim for the middle.  From a tree stand. if you aim for the same spot, the trajectory of the arrow will  be lower than from level, so you should aim a shade higher.  As far as distances go, unless you are wayyyy up in a tree, the slope distance is not going to be significantly different than the horizontal distance. 

[PA BEN]

I would say you are off, you aim low because your arrow hits high from a tree

[lokidog]

I would say you are off, you aim low because your arrow hits high from a tree

Alright, lets try this exercise in visualization.  Standing 20 yards from a deer at the same level, aim at the point of the elbow on the front leg.  Where will your arrow go (if you can hit that spot)?  It should pass through the top portion of the heart, right (or thereabouts)?  Now, go 20 feet up in a tree.  If you impact at the exact same point on the side of the deer, the arrow will pass through the middle to bottom of the heart because a line drawn from the same impact point down at an angle will pass through the deer lower than a line drawn from the impact point point level through the deer.  This should not be too hard to see.

Now, if you are saying that your arrow will hit at a higher spot while shooting from 20 yards in a tree as 20 yards on the ground, I will call BS.  As long as the horizontal distance is the same for both arrow flights, the impact point will be the same as long as the  aim point is the same (because gravity effects the arrow for the same distance).  If you are using your range finder to figure your distance to a target from a treestand, then a 20 yard laser distance will actually be less than 20 yard horizontal distance and, yes, your arrow will hit high.  

[PA BEN]

You can call BS all you want. It's a fact your arrow arches. At a down angle your arrow arches up, so you hit high. I've killed tons of deer out of a tree and spent hours shooting targets from elevated positions. My fast compound at 15 to 20 yds  hits about 1" to 2" high from a tree, not much to make a difference but high all the same. A slower bow will hit higher. My advice to anyone shooting a bow is practice from all hunting situations. There's a range finder on the market that takes the angle out and give the yardage you aim to. BTW, when I place my stand in a tree I take practice shots w/judo points at all yardages I'll be shooting.
Treestand Bear

Treestand Buck

Ground blind Doe, you can see the blind along the tree line.

[rasbo]

You can call BS all you want. It's a fact your arrow arches. At a down angle your arrow arches up, so you hit high. I've killed tons of deer out of a tree and spent hours shooting targets from elevated positions. My fast compound at 15 to 20 yds  hits about 1" to 2" high from a tree, not much to make a difference but high all the same. A slower bow will hit higher. My advice to anyone shooting a bow is practice from all hunting situations. There's a range finder on the market that takes the angle out and give the yardage you aim to. BTW, when I place my stand in a tree I take practice shots w/judo points at all yardages I'll be shooting.
Treestand Bear

Treestand Buck

Ground blind Doe, you can see the blind along the tree line.

you are right...my son has that rangefinder and it works good

[lokidog]

I could also put up a bunch of treestand kill pics if I felt I needed to....

Here is a quote for you "The reason for this is that the trajectory arc is determined by the horizontal distance the arrow travels, not the overall distance."  from http://www.wildextremes.tv/index.php?topic=886.0  Gravity effects the arrow the same amount for a given horizontal distance. 

So, yes, if you use your rangefinder (non angle compensating type)  from your stand that is 20 feet in the air and it says 20 yards, the impact point will be higher than it would be on your 20 yard target on level ground.  But if you have placed range marks from the base of your tree, so that the horizontal distance is the same, it will hit the same place on the side of the animal. 

Either way, the place you want the arrow to enter on the animal will be higher when shooting from a treestand because the arrow will come out the other side lower than the entry point.  This aimpoint height difference will be more for higher stands and less for farther away shots.  It's about entry angle of the arrow.