t/c new muzzle loader are u kidding me?

[Rhino]

Just wondering if anyone has bought T/C northwest explorer. I was looking at one yesterday for $305 @ ranch & home in kennewick. The guy said they wont stabilize sabots or pwrbelts. My T/C Hawkens shoots both fine w/ 1:48 twist. I'm wondering if it's my barrel length that's the differnce. I dont know what the NW explorer has but its diffently shorter.

[Kowsrule30]

I shot 410 Great Plains by Honady 6 or 7 years ago when I first started ML with my X-150..... They shot great with 1 in 28 twist..... The next year I switched to Power Belts in 295 and moved up to 130 gains of powder.... They shot even better and were a ton easier to load....  I don't see why they would make it 1 in 48 only.....    You would think they would make a 1 in 28 as well to satisfy all ends.... I've shot the 295 Power Belts out of my Dad's Hawken with 1 in 48 and they shot just as good as the 470 Maxi Hunter's From T/C.. But as stated earlier..... Maybe it's the longer barrel....   

[carpsniperg2]

Rhino i follow allot with muzzloading and archery all the reviews that i have read say that round balls are great threw this gun but will not shoot sabots at all worth crap or most cons as well there is a few people that had o.k. accuracy with maxi balls and maxi hunters by t/c but thats about it.

[superdown]

I was looking at one of the T/C northwest explorer's yesterday at Sportco in fife and the guy at the counter said they were 1:28. they had a camo/stainless and a black synthetic/stainless for a little over $300 i think.

[Whitelightning]

I shoot conicals out of my White with 1:24. It is extremely accurate.

 To shoot lead accurately you do not need or want 130-140 grains powder, you score or melt the the side of the bullet and loose accuracy and velocity. Some guys use a over powder wad also. Try shooting lead conicals at 76-90 grains powder and you will probably be very pleased. Most M/L's will not burn 140gr powder in the barrel. Try laying a white sheet out in front of you about two feet and fire your rifle. If you find residue (unburned powder) on the sheet than you are not burning the charge in the barrel. Once the bullet leaves the barrel it don't care if the powder is still burning.