Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt

[h2ofowlr]

Unfortunately many unedited videos that make there way to youtube are going to end up in the hands of the anti-hunting community and they will come to haunt the hunting community.  Not because anything illegal happened, just do to the ignorance of the anti hunters and the claims of animal suffering.  There will be a day that they will try to charge a hunter for legally harvesting an animal with animal cruelty due the method used or poor shot placement and the animal doesn't expire right away.  Just a matter of time in the good old state of Washington. 

[haus]

Well it was just a matter of time before the Anti's put some crappy video together so all there Earth Muffin Granola crunchers could join in on a tear for the Soulless animals that were sacrificed for mere pleasure and trophy bragging rights.  What a crock of *censored*, these people are so brain washed its like they all were born and raised in a compound were there mothers all screwed there God sent leader.  What is this world turning into, its were frightening...  Save the ELK'S

Crappy video? It doesn't take much effort to make a propaganda video when someone else does it for you. I dunno why they even edited and chopped, it was adequate in raw form. Just pick a section, hit play and be treated to several minutes of damn near pets being shot, did any of those elk have names?     I'm sure the shooters had some alfalfa in their free hand, I'm impressed that they hid it from the camera!!!!

I wish I could ask those "hunters" na just tell them.   Aside from the ethics and laws reasonings; What ya did takes a special kind of stupid, a special kind of ignorance. If you couldn't equate that your fish in a barrel demonstration in full view along a well used public highway would have consequences for the rest of us, then Darwinism has failed.

I mean I'll admit I've done some dumb **** in my day legal or not legal, the law is not founded on a principle such as respectful judgement, but at least those things were in a manner that would only hurt me and not others, directly or indirectly. Well maybe someone was wondering where their backyard pet buck went.......

[bigbeamhunter]

even it was legal,it show no sportsmanship .ive always said there are people that are hunters and people who just go hunting ...and in my opinion that wasnt either . iwent to grays river about ten years ago and seen the same thing.i like to hunt em eat em hate to see them suffer..they just made a bad choice

[Skillet]

I'm both impressed with the tenacity of those who will still argue in support of this as a "hunt" and dissappointed by their lack of vision.

No matter how many times or different ways you say the same thing, it doesn't change the fact that our hunting privileges (NOT rights) are for us to protect, and we ignore the negative impressions made upon the voting public by public displays like this at our own peril.  We have historically enjoyed their support, but with the bad press circulating around this, we should not take it for granted.  The attitude of "It is legal, so if anybody doesn't like what I am doing, tough" being displayed here by the few is not productive and runs contrary to the impression we need to support that hunters in general are a thinking, aware and ethical group of people.  It may not be legal for long.

[bearpaw]

I just watched the anti video, and I have seen the news footage before.

While I don't agree with the guys shooting those elk while a crowd watched, here is the first thing that popped into my mind when I started watching the elk being shot at again that were wounded:

If those bowhunters were wolves, the crowd would have been cheering them on, but since it was human bowhunters they are hated by the same people who would be cheering on the wolves.

It's not that those antis are so concerned about an animal suffering, they really could care less about deer and elk, that is just a smoke screen to accomplish there goal of keeping people from hunting. They hate society and people......

Like i said, throw a pack of wolves in the field and they woiuld be cheering while the elk were eaten alive....

That my friends is the sad truth.

[WDFW-SUX]

good post.

I think that anytime they can misrepresent a situation they will.  Ignoring the damage control aspect of this hunt by the media and anti's is not surprising.  Its much easier to vilify than explain the legitimate reasons for the hunt.

[high country]

Fact is - if the compound archers could have reserved judgement not to shoot the animals when there was a crowd brewing on the highway there might not be a silly video.

If that's called making friends then you must not use the English language.

or if WDFW had enforced the law.....there would not have been a crowd.
REVISED CODE OF WASHINGTON ANNOTATED
TITLE 77. GAME AND GAME FISH
CHAPTER 77.16. PROHIBITED ACTS AND PENALTIES
 
77.16.340. Obstructing the taking of fish or wildlife--Penalty--Defenses
(1) A person commits the crime of obstructing the taking of fish or wildlife if the person:

(a) Harasses, drives, or disturbs fish or wildlife with the intent of disrupting lawful pursuit or taking thereof; or
(b) Harasses, interferes with, or intimidates an individual engaged in the lawful taking of fish or wildlife or lawful predator control.


(2) Violation of this section is a gross misdemeanor under RCW 77.21.010.

(3) It is a defense to any prosecution under subsection (1) of this section, if the person charged:

(a) Interferes with any person engaged in hunting outside legally established hunting seasons;
(b) Is preventing or attempting to prevent the injury or killing of a protected wildlife species, as defined by this title;

(c) Is preventing or attempting to prevent unauthorized trespass on private property; or

(d) Is defending oneself or another person from bodily harm or property damage by a person attempting to prevent hunting in a legally established hunting season.


Enacted by Laws 1988, ch. 265, § 1, eff. July 1, 1988.
 
 
 

[bearpaw]

The members on this forum are more concerned about pain and suffering of deer and elk than the antis really are....

[WDFW-SUX]

Harasses, interferes with, or intimidates an individual engaged in the lawful taking of fish or wildlife or lawful predator control

Id say the individuals involved in this have been harassed wouldnt you?

[Axle]

Bear in mind folks, if the onlookers were a hungry crowd, it would have a totally different twist.
Since they have never had a hungry day in their lives, it is emotional feelings to them.

[WDFW-SUX]

There's some perspective!

[Skillet]

It's not that those antis are so concerned about an animal suffering, they really could care less about deer and elk, that is just a smoke screen to accomplish there goal of keeping people from hunting.

Agree 100% with the above.  I've made the point before, and I'll do it again.  Wasting time and effort worrying about what the anti's think is just that - a waste.  Not going to change their minds, so don't try.  Spend the time and effort properly representing ourselves as a group to the people who VOTE.  That's who the anti's made this video for.  Not us.  They know we are as entrenched in our positions as they are in theirs.  They are just being as effective as possible with the video some on this board don't see anything wrong with.  By going about it in trying to appeal to the people who were indifferent to hunting before, but may be swayed by this type of propaganda, they will find support for their cause.  And those that won't see the forest for the trees because they are too proud, or too tired of feeling persecuted and judged by the anti's today, will be the first to complain that the public are idiots for taking away their "right to hunt".  And they will probably still need to be reminded that they didn't lose a right, but failed to properly protect a privilege...

Defending what happened there is not helping we as hunters, it's helping the anti's.  The average voter did not get a feeling of "I am indifferent to hunting, but I will support the tradition" when watching King 5 that night.  Lose the average voter's support, and it's over.  Having a hard time believing that some of you can't see that.

[Ray]

Fact is - if the compound archers could have reserved judgement not to shoot the animals when there was a crowd brewing on the highway there might not be a silly video.

If that's called making friends then you must not use the English language.

or if WDFW had enforced the law.....there would not have been a crowd.
REVISED CODE OF WASHINGTON ANNOTATED
TITLE 77. GAME AND GAME FISH
CHAPTER 77.16. PROHIBITED ACTS AND PENALTIES
 
77.16.340. Obstructing the taking of fish or wildlife--Penalty--Defenses
(1) A person commits the crime of obstructing the taking of fish or wildlife if the person:

(a) Harasses, drives, or disturbs fish or wildlife with the intent of disrupting lawful pursuit or taking thereof; or
(b) Harasses, interferes with, or intimidates an individual engaged in the lawful taking of fish or wildlife or lawful predator control.


(2) Violation of this section is a gross misdemeanor under RCW 77.21.010.

(3) It is a defense to any prosecution under subsection (1) of this section, if the person charged:

(a) Interferes with any person engaged in hunting outside legally established hunting seasons;
(b) Is preventing or attempting to prevent the injury or killing of a protected wildlife species, as defined by this title;

(c) Is preventing or attempting to prevent unauthorized trespass on private property; or

(d) Is defending oneself or another person from bodily harm or property damage by a person attempting to prevent hunting in a legally established hunting season.


Enacted by Laws 1988, ch. 265, § 1, eff. July 1, 1988.
 
 

I'd call that craphouse attorney work. It wouldn't fly in a courtroom. No offense.

[Ray]

Harasses, interferes with, or intimidates an individual engaged in the lawful taking of fish or wildlife or lawful predator control

Id say the individuals involved in this have been harassed wouldnt you?

How is that? They got their photo taken? Is that against the law?

[Ray]

The members on this forum are more concerned about pain and suffering of deer and elk than the antis really are....

That's beyond ridiculous. It is not based on anything factual.