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Re: Elk poaching in the Nile
« Reply #60 on: February 04, 2010, 08:26:15 PM »
Alright guys...that's enough...don't feed his ego too much or his head will explode! :chuckle:

We should start a Hall of fame for great posts...any nominees?
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Re: Elk poaching in the Nile
« Reply #61 on: February 04, 2010, 08:31:39 PM »


We should start a Hall of fame for great posts...any nominees?


:yeah: 

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Re: Elk poaching in the Nile
« Reply #62 on: February 04, 2010, 08:39:35 PM »


We should start a Hall of fame for great posts...any nominees?


:yeah: 

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Re: Elk poaching in the Nile
« Reply #63 on: February 04, 2010, 09:42:02 PM »
There is a thread on another message board right now with the topic of indians hunting Bighorn Sheep in NE Oregon. One particular post was really well written IMO, and I'm going to copy and paste it here in this thread, to go along with colockumelk's post. (I hope the author doesn't mind)   :dunno:  But I wish I had written this, it's exactly the way I see the problem.

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It appears that what was intended by that treaty was that the Native tribes, when off of reservation land, were afforded the rights and opportunities that every citizen held at the time. That land was open to hunting and fishing for all, was it not? Therefore, it was not necessarily a special or preferred status awarded that the common citizen of the US was also not afforded. Now that the common citizens of today find the same opportunities and rights that existed 150 years ago are different for the common good on that same land, it must be argued that a new and special right is currently being awarded to hunt and fish as they please when off the reservation.

The term "unclaimed land" is also vague and open to interpretation. An argument could be made that the State of Oregon, and thus ALL of its legal constituents, claimed that land when Oregon became a state in 1859. Thus there is no "unclaimed land" left for which a new and special right could even be offered. Those two ideas do not even begin to address what a treaty is and how long they function to govern the affairs of men. Are they forever? Or are they constructed for a era or point in time during the long history of mankind? Do we still trade with Britain according to treaties from the Revolutionary War era? Do we use only the Magna Carta as our basis for the rights of every man? Or do cultures change and grow, and the laws of man must evolve also? Something to consider.

There is no doubt that Native Americans were treated poorly in most cases. Of that there can be no argument. But the sins of past generations and the emotions that they engender cannot be the singular basis for how men are to be governed today. Clearly reason, logic, common sense, and a promotion of the common good must enter the debate.
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Re: Elk poaching in the Nile
« Reply #64 on: February 05, 2010, 09:12:57 AM »
That statement is spot-on. Thanks for posting it Bobcat.

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Re: Elk poaching in the Nile
« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2010, 01:52:50 PM »
A few survivors that I saw yesterday. We had a game warden drive by while we were up there, it was nice to see him in the area.
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Re: Elk poaching in the Nile
« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2010, 02:23:53 PM »
Nice bulls!!!   :o

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Re: Elk poaching in the Nile
« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2010, 02:55:22 PM »
cool picture! nice looking bulls

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Re: Elk poaching in the Nile
« Reply #68 on: February 08, 2010, 10:07:50 AM »
Bobcat right on.  Thaks for re-posting that.  Spot on.
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Re: Elk poaching in the Nile
« Reply #69 on: February 08, 2010, 02:01:51 PM »
"he had me at hello".

Loved the last part the best.  Nicely worded.  Send that to gregwhore would ya?


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Re: Elk poaching in the Nile
« Reply #70 on: February 08, 2010, 02:20:05 PM »
Well one of the definitions is

–verb (used with object) 4. Obsolete. to make a whore of; corrupt; debauch.

So yeah it kind of fits.   :chuckle:
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Re: Elk poaching in the Nile
« Reply #71 on: February 13, 2010, 07:15:58 PM »
       :yeah:  I think everyone who are trying to blame the tribal members need to quit being so racist!    :bash: Wether they are white or black or Native American doesn't matter they are individuals that need to be prosecuted for poaching a big game animal out of season  :yike:

I think they are blaming the tribal members because it is the tribal members in that area that are doing the poaching  :dunno:
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