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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2010, 01:48:20 PM »
Well, also think about that 55 grain in 223 caliber is a heavy bullet for the caliber. It will have a decent ballistic coefficient which the 100 grain in .277 would not.

Would you choose a 40 grain bullet in .223 to shoot deer?

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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2010, 05:45:32 PM »
100 grain will work fine. It all comes down to shot placement. I have a friend in Oregon who has shot more deer with a 22-250 than he can count (much smaller bullet). I have done similar with smaller than 100 grains and never lost a deer.

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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2010, 05:57:21 PM »
I saw federal ammo has a 110 grain Barnes Tipped Triple Shock. Screams about 3500 FPS and is only 5 inches low at 300 (200 yard zero). I think that would be some deadly deer medicine. Im gonna try it this year.
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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2010, 06:03:09 PM »
I saw federal ammo has a 110 grain Barnes Tipped Triple Shock. Screams about 3500 FPS and is only 5 inches low at 300 (200 yard zero). I think that would be some deadly deer medicine. Im gonna try it this year.

110 gr for a .270?
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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2010, 06:26:57 PM »
I posted a link in reply #7 to the Federal 110 gr tipped TSX in .270 Win.  I think it would be good on deer.

100 gr in the .270 will be hard to find a well constructed bullet.  The only 100 gr bullets I know of are soft points that Remington loads........those are coyote bullets, not deer bullets.  Can you kill a deer with one?...yes, but you better not hit a rib......worse yet, what if you hit the shoulder? 
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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2010, 06:45:48 PM »
100 grain will work fine. It all comes down to shot placement. I have a friend in Oregon who has shot more deer with a 22-250 than he can count (much smaller bullet). I have done similar with smaller than 100 grains and never lost a deer.

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Actually, no it WON'T work fine. I can't believe you guys keep bringing up the 22-250 with a 55 grain bullet. A 100 grain bullet in a 270 has a low ballistic coefficient and low sectional density. Not only that but any 100 grain bullets you find are not going to be designed with big game in mind. They are made for varmints and therefore are going to open up too fast for shooting deer.

It shouldn't even be considered as a deer bullet. It's too fast up close (within a couple hundred yards) unless you are wanting to rip a deer completely in half. At longer range, it's going to be pushed a lot more by the wind than heavier bullets with better ballistic coefficients. I'm just not sure why anybody would choose to use an inferior bullet for deer hunting, when there are so many good bullets available.

The 130 works great and is the lightest you should use. With the exception, as I said before, of any of the copper bullets such as the 110 grain Barnes. But if you're talking about conventional jacketed bullets, you will want something in the 130-150 grain range.




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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2010, 06:58:14 PM »
I would say 100 grain would be plenty for any deer as long as it is a good bullet made for big game. As many have said most are made for varmints and they expand way to fast.

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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2010, 07:35:54 PM »
Well let me say this. Me and a buddy went coyote hunting 2 years ago, and he was braggin about how smokin fast his handloaded round of 110 gr. Barnes Tipped Triple-Shock out of his .270 win. Putting a long story short he gut shot a coyote at about 150 yards or so and absolutely blew him in half. When he was showing me how to tube out the dog we found pieces of the bullet absolutely everywhere throughout the dog. There wasn't hardly an exit wound at all. So my  :twocents: is to stay away from anything less than 130 gr. for deer.

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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2010, 07:45:18 PM »
Well let me say this. Me and a buddy went coyote hunting 2 years ago, and he was braggin about how smokin fast his handloaded round of 110 gr. Barnes Tipped Triple-Shock out of his .270 win. Putting a long story short he gut shot a coyote at about 150 yards or so and absolutely blew him in half. When he was showing me how to tube out the dog we found pieces of the bullet absolutely everywhere throughout the dog. There wasn't hardly an exit wound at all. So my  :twocents: is to stay away from anything less than 130 gr. for deer.

I gotta call BS. A Barnes TSX isn't going to come apart like that.


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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2010, 07:48:01 PM »
Im not a reloader, and don't know a ton about it but that is what we found. I use the same bullet in 130 gr. for my .270 wsm and never had any trouble. I love the bullet.

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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2010, 07:56:37 PM »
I just ran some numbers through a ballistic calculator for fun. Going by Remington's data for their 270 Win. cartridges, with the 100 grain Pointed Soft Point with a B.C. of .252 and a MV of 3320, and zeroed at 250 yards, the drop at 500 yards is 38.2 inches. With the Pointed Soft Point Core Lokt 130 grain bullet with a BC of .336 and a MV of 3060, the drop at 500 yards is 37.7 inches. Or you can go with a 130 grain bullet with a higher BC such as the AccuTip, same muzzle velocity but a BC of .447, and the drop at 500 yards is 32.5 inches.

So we have:                                        Drop at 500 yards                 Wind Drift (10 mph cross wind)
                                                        
100 grain Pointed Soft Point                   38.2 inches                            33.8 inches
130 grain Pointed Soft Point Core Lokt      37.7 inches                            26.1 inches
130 grain AccuTip                                 32.5 inches                            18.4 inches


Looks to me like if you're wanting a flat shooting bullet for long range the 100 grain is out.
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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2010, 07:58:56 PM »
Well let me say this. Me and a buddy went coyote hunting 2 years ago, and he was braggin about how smokin fast his handloaded round of 110 gr. Barnes Tipped Triple-Shock out of his .270 win. Putting a long story short he gut shot a coyote at about 150 yards or so and absolutely blew him in half. When he was showing me how to tube out the dog we found pieces of the bullet absolutely everywhere throughout the dog. There wasn't hardly an exit wound at all. So my  :twocents: is to stay away from anything less than 130 gr. for deer.

I gotta call BS. A Barnes TSX isn't going to come apart like that.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. He must have been bragging about one but shooting another. I've shot an elk with a Barnes and it went from one end to the other and only lost 10% of its weight. Barnes bullets just don't come apart, especially on a coyote.

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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2010, 08:04:36 PM »
Well let me say this. Me and a buddy went coyote hunting 2 years ago, and he was braggin about how smokin fast his handloaded round of 110 gr. Barnes Tipped Triple-Shock out of his .270 win. Putting a long story short he gut shot a coyote at about 150 yards or so and absolutely blew him in half. When he was showing me how to tube out the dog we found pieces of the bullet absolutely everywhere throughout the dog. There wasn't hardly an exit wound at all. So my  :twocents: is to stay away from anything less than 130 gr. for deer.

I gotta call BS. A Barnes TSX isn't going to come apart like that.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. He must have been bragging about one but shooting another. I've shot an elk with a Barnes and it went from one end to the other and only lost 10% of its weight. Barnes bullets just don't come apart, especially on a coyote.

yeah that could have been it, it was a couple of years ago.

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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2010, 08:17:14 PM »
Another vote for a 130gr for the .270

Notice how there are not very many large game bullets in 100gr? Wonder why?
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Re: 100 grain .270 win too light for deer?
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2010, 08:30:35 PM »
in 277 the barnes is really the only light for caliber bullet you redily get your hands on that will suffice for big game. you would be money ahead to grab something like a speer hot-cor or bal tip.....etc, in 130gr. they are cheap to load and I know the speer bas a bc of .449 and I have killed a bunch of deer/elk/coyotes with it.......no complaints here. the 270win is a great one to shoot "cheap" bullets in as every bullet made is designe for its velocity range. I am a proponent of premium bullets in big strappers, but I shoot good ol' hot cor's in 3 different 270wins wih great results in accuracy, killing efficiency and at 15 bux a hundred........I get more practice too.

 


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