What happend to the alkali unit?

[trophyhunt]

I noticed the proposal for the rifle alkali tags is down to 5 permits this year??? 50 for archery still, i hope this is a misprint. Does anyone know what is going on in that unit, i have heard they might have blue tongue in there but haven't called the bio yet. Has always been a fun hunt, i hope nothing is wrong with those deer.

[bobcat]

I don't think blue tongue is a problem there. Isn't that only a whitetail disease? But I believe I have heard of hair loss in the deer in that area. Not to mention I've heard the indians get to go in there and kill a lot of deer.

[ICEMAN]

You Racist!

[trophyhunt]

I have been drawn there twice and knew the indian hunting would start to take it's toll but I'm supprised to see the rifle tags drop so low with the archery staying so high? It just doesn't make sense, as far as indians hunting it, just like everywhere else what the f can we do???

[trophyhunt]

You Racist!

Your an idiot, what the F is racist about what he said?? When you get a little older and wiser while spending more time in the woods, you'll understand a little more about indian issues.

[ICEMAN]

Its a joke pal. Hang around here long enough and you will understand.

[bobcat]

That is odd. I hadn't even noticed the changes, thanks for pointing it out. I just went and looked at it, and another thing that's odd is the 50 archery permits they are offering are not in the "Quality" category but in the "Buck" category. The 5 rifle permits are in the Quality. Then, they have muzzleloader permits for Alkali listed under the Buck category, but the quantity of permits is left blank

I am surprised it's down to only 5 permits. That was always one that a guy could put in for as a 4th choice and have a good chance of drawing it. I guess the indians and hair loss has taken a toll.

[halflife65]

You Racist!

Your an idiot, what the F is racist about what he said?? When you get a little older and wiser while spending more time in the woods, you'll understand a little more about indian issues.

That's funny 

Alarming about the Alkali, though...

[whacker1]

I haven't looked, but are the rifle permits during the rut?.... there was mention in the proposal that the "quality" permits would be defined much involving the rut or transition to winter range.  That is paraphrased a great deal, but I think I got the intent of what they were trying to do close.

[bobcat]

Yes, during the rut, Nov 6-21. The muzzleloader season is Sept 26 to Oct 15, although the number of permits was left blank so I don't know what's up with that. The archery season is Sept 1-25 and there are 50 permits shown for that one.

[whacker1]

The rut would be the defining factor in the "Quality" category.  It will be interesting to see how this whole thing evolves.  Lots of debate going forward over the good, bad, and ugly.

[Pathfinder101]

Interesting.  You are right, must have something to do with it being a rut hunt.
Blue tounge by the way, generally affects whitetails because of their habitat, not because mulies are immune to it. It is caused by the deer breathing in large numbers of a certain kind of flying knat that live close to water (i.e. riverbottoms, where whiteys generally hang out).  The knats clog their airway and they suffocate, dying with their "blue tounges" sometimes hanging out.  At least that is how it was explained to me. 

[whacker1]

I was under the impression that the flies or knats were biting the tongue and the tongue would swell up & turning blue so they couldn't eat or drink, and ultimately starve.  But same source - stagnant water source during dry years.  often affects the antelope as well as the deer.

[sako223]

it seems to be hard hit by Indian hunting, especially since they live at the back door. I have seen them out there a lot. When driving out ther I often see deer cresting a hill 8-900 yards out at a dead run. For some reason this makes me think they are under pressure.

[WDFW-SUX]

100+ tags happend last season...