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I was watching HAWG QUEST and they were fishing the Clear-water in Idaho and I counted 10 wild fish they netted and had in the boat taking pictures and holding up for the show. I was wondering if they had the same rule here as to not take any wild steelhead out of the water???  :dunno:
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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelheah out of water?????
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 07:14:41 PM »
I watched the same episode. I am pretty sure I've seen them pull nates out of the cowlitz too. I may be mistaken on that though. Don't quote me.

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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelheah out of water?????
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 07:33:56 PM »
Watched it as well and was shocked to see all those native's brought out of the water. Surprised the guide would even allow it.
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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelheah out of water?????
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2010, 07:46:12 PM »
Checked the ID online regs could not find anything about removing natives from water :dunno:

Clearwater, single barbless hook. You would think think that a competent, ethical  Guide would not remove the fish from the water and minimize handling.

I would not personally fish with a Guide like this.

Guess he wanted glory shots for the TV camera.

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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelhead out of water?????
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2010, 08:29:00 PM »
Thought the way they handle and released these fish was wrong. Look like they where out to party.

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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelhead out of water?????
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2010, 09:42:22 PM »
 Leaving the fish in water makes a bad show. I really think the Hawg Quest guys are good fisherman but bad sportsmen. I have seen them pull natives on the Cowltz before.

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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelhead out of water?????
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2010, 08:23:55 AM »
 :dunno:  If the fish is left in the water/net, then lifted out for a 3 second photos, I don't see that as being a bad sportsman.  I understand it's illegal here but no such rule in ID.  The fish is released unharmed, I don't see it as being unethical or unsportsmanlike.   :twocents: 
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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelhead out of water?????
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2010, 08:43:33 AM »
thats cause your not a flyfisherman. ;)     

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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelhead out of water?????
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2010, 10:36:16 AM »
thats cause your not a flyfisherman. ;)      

I guess so, I'm just a white, trailer trash bait fisherman.  :)
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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelhead out of water?????
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2010, 10:42:14 AM »
i guess im a white trash bait fisherman too :chuckle:. i see no problem with taking a native outa the water for a pic, sucks cause it can be really hard to get a good pic of a native when your in a boat without taking the fish outa the water. most the fish i catch hatchery or not get released, the hatcherys after a pic seem to swim away just as good as the natives do ;)

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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelhead out of water?????
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2010, 11:07:05 AM »
AS AM I, Lol, i flyfish, but would never ever call myself a flyfisherman. guess what i meant is ya have to be better than everybody else to understand, Lol.  i saw that show too, my first thought, was here we go with the dabate on a 10 second picture and release of a still very green fish. seems that some in the flyfishing community, seem to think this is more harmful to wild steelhead than fighting one for 20 minutes on a 6 weight. i'm guessing fly caught mortality is far far greater than gear caught and released mortality. i would like to propose an end to fly fishing on streams that have these runs of beautiful wild fish, Lol. guess i'm still stinging from the fact that i wasn't even worth a hello on the Met the other day as i wasn't dressed in Simms and carrying a bug rod ;)

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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelhead out of water?????
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2010, 11:15:01 AM »
Is this going to turn into a fly vs bait fisherman post :rolleyes:

I am white trash as the next guy (I  grew up on a dairy farm in Wisconsin) and most times would actually rather fish with a bait guy, as long as he has most of his teeth, :chuckle: than a fly fisherman. Too many of fly fishermen are super anal and elitist tools. And most of the fly fishermen here in WA are bigtime libs too. Check out some of the fly fishing web sites.

I think the no handling of natives ( same for over size sturgeon) in a lot of states is that too many guys take fish out of water too long for photo or end up dropping it on the bank or in the boat when trying to get the pic. Do not think it is a bad law :twocents:

Agree to disagree I guess

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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelhead out of water?????
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2010, 11:19:33 AM »
Taking the fish out of water for a quick pic. but they had these fish out of water for quite some time tho. Still like the HAWG QUESt show tho because they are a local fishing show.
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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelhead out of water?????
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2010, 11:34:13 AM »
would actually rather fish with a bait guy, as long as he has most of his teeth, :chuckle: than a fly fisherman.

:):)  Too funny!
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Re: same rule in Id. as WA. to not take wild steelhead out of water?????
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2010, 11:39:39 AM »
True story, I was stationed for 6 years in merry old England, first 4 years I only fished for pike (they have world class pike fishing in England).  But the KING of fish over there is the carp.  I have seen guys land a carp, put lip balm on it's lip where the hook was in and wade out in waist deep water and cradling the fish bring it gently back to full strength.  Once I seen a guy fight and land a carp without a net, several other bank fishermen got and walked over and made it extremely clear if he ever did that again they'd throw him in the water right after they pounded his butt.  When I tell them how we treat carp over here, I get gasps and shudders.  Too funny how different regions look at different species.
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