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Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« on: May 24, 2010, 01:16:43 PM »
Getting ready to start river fishing, looking for some holes and was thinking about bait choices. Back home in Montana years ago we could use corn in the creeks, works great on brook trout. Our favorite river bait was a little fish we would go net called a skulpin ( could be hammering the spelling), they stopped usage sometime like 96. Can you use them up and corn here? If so, does anyone know where to net some, drainages, ranch irregation.

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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2010, 01:17:59 PM »
Live bait==illegal.
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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2010, 01:27:27 PM »
Understand and saw the live bait illegal but it is dead. We would catch them and put them in sandwich bags about 6 to a pack and freeze them. Take them out the morning of the fishing trip and perfect when we hit the river.

Is dead bait considered live bait?

Sorry folks, not from this state and have alot of learning to do!!
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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2010, 01:28:07 PM »
OH COOL.. WELL I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS SUBJECT TOO.  SINCE LIVEBAIL IS ELLEGAL, DUE TO INTRODUCING  INVACIVE NON-NATIVE SPECIES,  WHAT IF YOU CATCH THE LITTLE FISH TO USE FOR BAIT IN THE SAME BODY OF WATER?

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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2010, 01:28:46 PM »
I BELEIVE ITS FINE IF THEY'RE DEAD

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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2010, 01:30:29 PM »
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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2010, 01:32:22 PM »
Corn would be illegal unless chumming is specifically allowed in that body of water.
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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2010, 01:32:59 PM »
OH COOL.. WELL I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS SUBJECT TOO.  SINCE LIVEBAIL IS ELLEGAL, DUE TO INTRODUCING  INVACIVE NON-NATIVE SPECIES,  WHAT IF YOU CATCH THE LITTLE FISH TO USE FOR BAIT IN THE SAME BODY OF WATER?

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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2010, 02:08:21 PM »
Couldn't you use corn for bait as long as you don't chum with it.

There are skulpins in the columbia. Not sure if they can legally be used for bait or not.
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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2010, 02:13:34 PM »
Yes, you can put kernels of corn on your hook.......you just can't dump a can of corn in the water and fish there. 
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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2010, 02:14:53 PM »
Corn would be illegal unless chumming is specifically allowed in that body of water.
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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2010, 02:15:46 PM »
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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2010, 02:19:11 PM »
the charter boats use anchovies for bass and salmon for ling cod and blue gill and suckers for catfish and live anchovies for tuna so I would think it would be legal but don; know about corn. They use salmon for halibut.

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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2010, 02:32:12 PM »
Getting ready to start river fishing, looking for some holes and was thinking about bait choices. Back home in Montana years ago we could use corn in the creeks, works great on brook trout. Our favorite river bait was a little fish we would go net called a skulpin ( could be hammering the spelling), they stopped usage sometime like 96. Can you use them up and corn here? If so, does anyone know where to net some, drainages, ranch irregation.

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I'm pretty sure it is illegal in this state to net fish like is common in some other states.  So, if you want to use skulpin for bait I think you'd have to catch them by hook and line.  Just download the fishing regs in pdf format and start searching the document for key words.
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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2010, 03:22:39 PM »
Below are some quotes from the regs:

It is unlawful to chum or broadcast any substance to attract game fish.  Where use of bait is prohibited, or where lures or flies are used voluntarily, game fish may be caught and released until the daily limit is retained. If any fish has swallowed the hook or is hooked in the gill, eye, or tongue, it should be kept if legal to do so.

It is unlawful to possess or use live aquatic animals as bait, except:
1. Live aquatic animals (other than fish) collected from the water being fished.
2. Live sand shrimp.
3. Live forage fish in the Columbia River downstream of the Rocky Point/
Tongue Point line.


You May Not:
  • Fish in closed waters.
    Retain wild STEELHEAD or DOLLY VARDEN/ BULL TROUT except where specially authorized in the special rules.
    Retain a GREEN STURGEON.
    Take, fish for, or possess PACIFIC LAMPREY, WESTERN BROOK LAMPREY, or RIVER LAMPREY, or use any species of LAMPREY for bait.
    Harvest in freshwater any fish not classified as a food fish or game fish (See definitions page 18).
    Fish for PYGMY WHITEFISH, MARGINED SCULPIN, or OLYMPIC MUDMINNOW.
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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2010, 04:00:51 PM »
I asked this question to the game dept about using stocker trout for halibut bait as my kids love catching them out of the local pond but we won't eat them cause the water is reclaimed, some may say that water is cleaner the second time around but I ain't willing to prove it yet !! so here is what I got back from WDFW today and some of this has been posted already but there may be a clearer explanation in here !!!

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Thank you for your email correspondence to the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) Fish Program.
 
Your best source for information on licenses, daily limits, season, restrictions, etc. would be the 2010/2011 Fishing In Washington Sport Fishing Rules regulation pamphlet. This pamphlet is full of a lot of useful information, such as license fees for both resident and non-resident on page 14. This publication is formatted with the regulations for Puget Sound and Straits Rivers first (new section this year), followed by Westside Rivers, Westside Lakes, Eastside Rivers, Eastside Lakes, Marine Area Rules and finally Shellfish/Seaweed Rules. There is also a list of the 6 Regional offices that are located throughout the state, with addresses and phone numbers included, on page 9.
 
Beginning back on May 1, 2009, with the 09/10 pamphlet cycle, it is unlawful to use live aquatic animals as bait, except: 1) Live aquatic animals (other than fish) collected from the water being fished may be used or possessed as bait. 2) Live sand shrimp may be used or possessed as bait. 3) Live forage fish may be used or possessed as bait in the Columbia River downstream of the Rocky Point/Tongue Point line. This is listed under the Statewide Freshwater Rules on page 26 of the pamphlet.
This means that live bait may not be used to fish for any species of fish in freshwater, except as noted in the statement above. This does not apply to marine areas, where live bait is a commonly used practice.
 
It is illegal to fish for any Game Fish with live fish as bait in Washington State, but this does not include critters such as leeches, crawfish, salamanders and other (non-fish) aquatic animals found in the same body of water you are fishing. The intent of the new bait rules is to avoid the spread of any aquatic species from a body of water where it might be indigenous, to another body of water where it may be classified as, or could become, invasive. Also, if a body of water has a Selective Gear Rule in place, or if the Special Rules specifically states no bait, then no bait or scent can be used. During an open season, if you happen to catch something lake a Trout, Bluegill or Pumpkinseed, you could cut that fish up to use as bait, but it would count towards your daily limit for that particular species.


Sorry this has nothing to do with corn and skulpin but usefull information anyway !!
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Re: Is this bait legal? Skulpin and corn
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2010, 07:44:01 PM »
in layman's terms, don't bother using live fish for bait in freshwater.  it's common to use live herring for salmon and anchovies for tuna, but they are not considered game fish(they're classified as food fish, which is a holdover from the days when we had a WDG and WDF).

there's nothing illegal about using corn for bait, but live sculpins are a no-no.  i don't know where the idea corn being illegal for bait comes from, but there's some numbskulls that like to start that rumor on the lakes every year.
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