Ok I have had enough

[jackelope]

I think it's comical that bigtex's 5th post on this site was asking for help for a waterfowl hunting area.

[Grouse Hunter]

I have had enough of "I just drew X tag, can you guys help me out?"

See ya!   

[WDFW-SUX]

I wish I could be an *censored*...(sigh)

[BIGINNER]

THE ONLY REASON I WOULD HELP ANYONE WITH A HUNTING AREA UNLESS THEY GIVE ME A REASON TO SUSPECT THAT THEY WOULD DISRESPECT THE PROPERTY, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,  90% OF THE AREAS I HUNT WERE POINTED OUT TO ME BY MEMBERS ON THIS SITE, I WOULD HELP OTHER PEOPLE OUT WITH MY SPOTS TOO AND THE SPOTS THAT I WAS TOLD ABOUT, (UNLESS I WAS ASKED NOT TO SHARE THE SPOT WITH ANYONE.)

[bigtex]

I'm on both sides of the coin on this one.  I HAVE helped, and WILL help again, yet I can't believe the 100pms I got the first three days after the draw.  Many from folks that I have NO IDEA who are.    I spend a lot of time helping folks WHERE I LIKE to hunt, then next year someone draws and they are on here HELPING and so on. Pretty soon those folks are helping, and so on. 

I do find it frustrating that people have 4 choices and put in for an area they have NO IDEA about, because they think it might have something there, yet as a guy that hunts out of state, I do the same thing.  They are taking the tag I have been dieing for, know the area well and want to hunt it. 

Draw odds would be extremely improved and there would be LESS of this if the WDFW went to ONE CHOICE for your hunt.   Better know what you are putting in for or what basket your name is going to be in. 

This is certainly a rant I can see both sides of the story. 

Thank you very much sir! If you look at my history I have helped out numerous hunters since the draw was run. However as said above I find it frustrating that people put in for areas they have no idea about, and many times this happens when people feel they need to put in for all four choices. They may know their top three but dont want to "waste" a choice so they just fling any number in there. I remember after the spring bear draw people that were for selected for Kapowsin which requires a $100 access fee came on this site and said they're not going to hunt because of the fee, well I didn't get drawn and was more then willing to pay! But yet there were numerous tags "wasted" by people who didn't want to pay extra to hunt. RESEARCH it not only helps out the hunter but also other hunters!

[LittleJohn]

I think you loose your points after a successful draw in this state Arn't they out of the game and they didn't fill there tag because they didn't know what they were putting in for. More chance for me next draw

[Skyvalhunter]

Yea but there is also those that would just bitch because they are envious that they didn't get drawn. Everyone has the right to put in for whatever they want. Just like when the anti's put in for permits to cut the odds of actual hunters drawing a permit. Pissing and moaning about it isn't going to do any good but turn others off of you.

[Deer slayer]

I am sure I am going to take some shot here because I am going to agree with Bigtex. I agree we should have an idea of what we are putting in for. You owe it to yourself as a hunter to have some knowledge about the GMU. You can learn a lot after the draw but don't you want to make the beat of it. But then again everyone has a right to put in for what they want. Remember we are always in a fish bowl and te anti's are always looking for a way to take a shot at us. So let's be the best prepared we can be when we step into the woods. If your lucky enough to get a draw make the best of it and kill what deserves to be killed. I am hoping for a 370 bull. My homework will be done and I will make the best of it.

[BIGINNER]

I WILL SOMEWHAT AGREE WITH BIGTEX AS WELL. EVERYONE NEEDS TO MAKE IT A HABIT TO AT LEAST DO SOME RESEARCH ONLINE BEFORE APLYING, OR DRIVE BY THE PLACE YOU WILL APPLY FOR AT LEAST ONCE,  RESEARCH ANY FEES, ACCESS, ETC... EVEN IF THE AREA IS FAR FROM YOU,  YOU CAN DO ALOT OF RESEARCH ONLINE, BEFORE YOU APPLY   ONCE YOU RESEARCHED THE IMPORTANT STUFF,  THEN YOU CAN APPLY, AND ASK FOR HELP...  

[MIKEXRAY]

I also see both sides, the 4 choices is what screws people up the most on this issue I'm sure. I hunt the Bumping unit & know it like the back of my hand and that is the only hunt choice I submit . If I put more units I would be in the same boat and not know the area. One thing I see that I don't like is people thinking they deserve a tag more than the next guy. If I drew a Bumping tag I am confident in getting a bull, does that mean I deserve it more than the new guy that has never been there and has little chance ? No.    I say help guys out anyway you can, I believe in Karma and the good that you offer will mean good returned to your life. Mike

[MuleySniper]

Yea but there is also those that would just bitch because they are envious that they didn't get drawn. Everyone has the right to put in for whatever they want. Just like when the anti's put in for permits to cut the odds of actual hunters drawing a permit. Pissing and moaning about it isn't going to do any good but turn others off of you.

 
Yeah you sure don't see these topics until right after the draw. Weird.
MS

[Deer slayer]

I think we just said it the way Bigtex meant to say it. I think we are inline with what he meant. Remember support each other or we are feeding into the anti's hands.

[haus]

i like to see other hunters succeed just as much as i enjoy succeeding so i will help out as much as i can. plus when i am in need of help hopefully people will remember that i was a nice guy and karma will be on my side to get some help as well.

i understand his rant to a point, if someone is just blindly applying for hunts and gets drawn and has no idea what to do or where to go that is frustrating, but at the same time as long as its a fellow hunter ill still be happy for them (and jealous).

Agreed. And if I were researching, studing, and getting ready for a hunt that I possibly put in for for years, I can think of no better collection of folks to ask for advice. After all, isn't that PART of the research? Finding folks that have knowledge of that particular area/hunt and picking their brains? I don't see that as any different than any other kind of research. In fact, in today's digital age, I think a guy or gal would be stupid not to use this resource.

+2

[Deer slayer]

Couldn't agree more.

[Quackwhacker]

I personally like to help others. Especially when they invite me to pack meat out of the woods.