Elk, broadhead choice

[br8kitoff]

I started hunting elk using a bow 20 years ago.  Back then they used to say you "NEEDED" the 175 grain head to get thru the hide.  Over the years I've changed my perspective on this and have gone from the traditional aluminum arrow to the carbon and a lighter head.  I use a 7595 gold tip arrow cut at 29" and the G5 montec 100 grain head, giving me a 361 grain set up.  Remember the state requires a minum of 300 grains for arrow weight with the length being no less than 20", 6 grains of weight per pound of pull.  I have killed plenty of elk with this set up I have not shot futher than 30 yards but would shoot from 40.  shoot for the boiler maker and if your high it's a double lunger...dead elk.  Our kill zone is 18 x 9 and if on target your biggest obstacle are ribs.  Find what works for you and put it to the test!  Good luck!

[carpsniperg2]

so br8kitoff what poundage are you shooting to be 6 grains per pound you have to be under 60lbs to be legal?

[br8kitoff]

Just under 64#, no digital scale just the pull one at the bow shop which gives me about 3 extra grains.....Thanks for that post....scared the crap out of me so I went and rechecked and i shoot the realtree arrow which is 9.7 gr/in which is 281g, not the standard which are 8.7 gr/in which was what I originally quoted..oops  need 378 for 63# and 384 for 64#

[Crunchy]

Just under 64#, no digital scale just the pull one at the bow shop which gives me about 3 extra grains.....Thanks for that post....scared the crap out of me so I went and rechecked and i shoot the realtree arrow which is 9.7 gr/in which is 281g, not the standard which are 8.7 gr/in which was what I originally quoted..oops  need 378 for 63# and 384 for 64#

I think your way off on your actual arrow weight.

[colockumelk]

Yeah if your shooting a 29" arrow at 9.7 grains per inch then your shaft weighs in at 281grains.   Add to that (18grains for fletching, 16grain insert, 9 grain nock) 43grains for the other junk plus 100 grain broad head your actual full arrow weight is more like 424.3 grains or so.   

[br8kitoff]

i looked back at the site and this is what i found.....

Outside Diameter....Shaft 7595....0.300 inches.....Spine....340....Shaft Weight......9.7Gr/inch....Length....32"

All arrows come prefletched, knocked, and with the insert....leading me to believe my estimation was right.  I never actually weighed them.  When I get home tomorrow i will put one on the poweder scale.   Maybe I can crank my weight back up....I switched about 5 years or so ago and didn't want to, by my calcualtion, shoot a 35" arrow....huh if you guys are right i should be able to slide back up to around 70#

[carpsniperg2]

Just under 64#, no digital scale just the pull one at the bow shop which gives me about 3 extra grains.....Thanks for that post....scared the crap out of me so I went and rechecked and i shoot the realtree arrow which is 9.7 gr/in which is 281g, not the standard which are 8.7 gr/in which was what I originally quoted..oops  need 378 for 63# and 384 for 64#

just wanted to make sure you did not get introuble over to light of arrow

[Crunchy]

i looked back at the site and this is what i found.....

Outside Diameter....Shaft 7595....0.300 inches.....Spine....340....Shaft Weight......9.7Gr/inch....Length....32"

All arrows come prefletched, knocked, and with the insert....leading me to believe my estimation was right.  I never actually weighed them.  When I get home tomorrow i will put one on the poweder scale.   Maybe I can crank my weight back up....I switched about 5 years or so ago and didn't want to, by my calcualtion, shoot a 35" arrow....huh if you guys are right i should be able to slide back up to around 70#

the 9.7 per inch is just the arrow shaft.  If they are 7595s it must be the camo shaft.

[br8kitoff]

yep camo, and thanks for the pointer......i'm excited to get home and weigh them

[WonkyWapiti]

alright, did a little research thanks for setting me straight on arrow weight. guess i do want 340's shooting 67 lbs. going with the easton n-fused axis, still researching ballistic charts to save time, money and arrows, bore sighting by computer, lol. guessing using my 20 yrd pin as a zero, 30 yards may be plus 8" and 40 yards may be plus 20" @ 260 fps. generaly speaking does this sound fair.

Hey Gearhead I'm shootng n-fused 340's with a 66 lb draw weight on my Alphamax 32.  I'm using 100 grain Hell Razors and this setup punched straight thru my elk last year.

[br8kitoff]

so I went home and weighed an arrow.....389g.  oh I guess I shortened them also...27" so 2 more inches would've given me 408g... thanks

[zpoolman]

That is a hard choice to make and one that can be a diaster if not correct. I wasn't sure what broadhead to use either, so I went to the internet. I looked up the hunting guides in the states with the most succes and read their pages. Some in New Mexico and Arizona will only guide if you use certain broadheads and they list them. I figure they know so I went on their advice. Good luck

[Wetwoodshunter]

I'm going to bump this up because I would love to see more discussion on this. I'm on the never ending search for the right broadhead, all I really care about is it's performance on elk and then it will easily do everything else I will want it to do.

Last year I shot shuttle T's, this year I was looking at sticking with them. Or using Rad's new Phelps design, G5 monotecs,  slick trick magnums, or I can get screaming deals on rage products but I'm not sold on mechanicals for elk.

[JBar]

Everyone can do them selves a favor and do a search on RAD broadheads. Read what RAD aka Bryan has to say. A personal conversation with him will educate you more than you ever wanted to be but you'll quickly realize he (RAD) has this figured out!! 

[Tjv28]

I have had success with G5 strikers. "Solid" broadheads look bad ass