Author Topic: Velvet sheds (Read 6857 times)

boneaddict · « **on:** March 13, 2008, 12:54:06 PM »

Some of you guys may have seen my topic on the mountain today and the discussion about what that bull in velvet will do. Well here is some evidence of what a deer in velvet did. You mihgt be right Groundhog......

huntnphool · « **Reply #1 on:** March 13, 2008, 02:03:53 PM »

So was it a stag?

T-ROY · « **Reply #2 on:** March 13, 2008, 02:36:29 PM »

I don't think stags drop.

GoldTip · « **Reply #3 on:** March 13, 2008, 04:07:17 PM »

I was also under the impression a stag didn't drop. But not sure what other reason may cause a buck to remain in Velvet all year.

huntnphool · « **Reply #4 on:** March 13, 2008, 04:20:47 PM »

Well what do you call a buck with one tiny, or no balls? I know cactus bucks dont drop but I thought stag bucks did. I wish I had a scanner, mt best friend and I spotted a double drop tine mulie in Montana during the 95 season. After my buddy decided to go after it we hiked up to within 300 yards and put the glasses on him again, it showed he wasn't a drop tine but had velvet hanging off his rack on both sides. Not normally a big deal except this was the middle of November. One shot and he was down, a 180+ buck. Dressing him out we noticed he had only one testical and that one was the size of a pea. We talked to some locals that had seen that buck several years over there and one had sheds, they were still in velvet. If I ever get a good scanner or rent one I will post the pics I have of him. Beautiful pics, bright blue sky with a foot of fresh powder, we actually had to squint because it was so bright. Anyway, I must be wrong with the stag part but what do you call them then?

bowhuntin · « **Reply #5 on:** March 13, 2008, 04:23:15 PM »

So the size of a buck or bulls testicles can determine if they rub their velvet off?

T-ROY · « **Reply #6 on:** March 13, 2008, 04:25:24 PM »

a couple of years ago in montana, kikl and i seen a 24 or 25 in big deep forked 2 point in velvet in mid november. its funny seeing a buck in full velvet standing in a foot of snow. i also shot a muley doe (I thought) about 10 years ago that was a buck that had already dropped his antlers and that was in mid november also.

huntnphool · « **Reply #7 on:** March 13, 2008, 04:34:18 PM »

Well not indirectly, its the lack of testosterone that causes the velvet to stay on, which is indirectly associated with one tiny or no balls. I wish we could get some of those WSU vet students on here to explain some things.

Quote from: bowhuntin on March 13, 2008, 04:23:15 PM

So the size of a buck or bulls testicles can determine if they rub their velvet off?

bowhuntin · « **Reply #8 on:** March 13, 2008, 04:38:25 PM »

My buddy took a muley doe with antlers that still had velvet on them a couple years ago out in some wheat fields. Very wierd, but interesting too.

Head-shot · « **Reply #9 on:** March 13, 2008, 06:38:40 PM »

Quote from: huntnphool on March 13, 2008, 04:20:47 PM

Well what do you call a buck with one tiny, or no balls?

Empty?

boneaddict · « **Reply #10 on:** March 13, 2008, 07:21:39 PM »

married.....

ICEMAN · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2008, 08:36:23 PM »

Quote from: huntnphool on March 13, 2008, 04:20:47 PM

Well what do you call a buck with one tiny, or no balls?

A Democrat?

archery288 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 13, 2008, 09:19:33 PM »

haha!! man that would suck to have no balls, and no testosterone - couldn't get your grove on and wouldn't even know what it's like!!??

andrew_12gauge · « **Reply #13 on:** March 13, 2008, 09:29:44 PM »

my uncle shot a buck in the wahluke unit about 4 years ago had both balls and full velvet during the general rifle season, wish i had a picture for you guys it was a damn nice 26 1/2 inch 5x5 and im not counting eyeguards. oh no what am i saying there are no deer in the wahluke unit

Red Dawg · « **Reply #14 on:** March 14, 2008, 04:23:36 PM »

i just learned something very interesting about stag bucks. According to my fair chase magazine which is published by boone and Crockett they will not score a stag buck. Even though it may score enough they will not score it. I probably has more to do with the velvet than anything but i thought it was interesting.

archery288 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 14, 2008, 07:38:25 PM »

why couldn't they put it in the velvet category?

Red Dawg · « **Reply #16 on:** March 14, 2008, 08:11:15 PM »

the blurb said they cant because a stag does not shed its antlers. Hence the velvet year round. i guess it is hormonal imbalance.

archery288 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 14, 2008, 08:45:17 PM »

interesting!!!!

jackelope · « **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2008, 10:02:37 PM »

here's a good article regarding cactus bucks from kings...

http://www.kingsoutdoorworld.com/feature/cactus-bucks.shtml

Head-shot · « **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2008, 10:20:40 PM »

About 10 years ago a friend of mine got a buck is NW South Dakota like that. It was the strangest thing any of us had seen. It had a gigantic body frame, almost as big as maybe an 8 month elk calf, just tall and big bones, not very much muscle tone. The hair was really faded out and looked a bit grey, face was nearly white. The rack was about 25" tall and only about 15" wide, but it was still in velvet all dried and shriveled up. It was a 6X11 most of which were stickers and little *censored* around the base. My buddy was freaking out cause it was in the velvet still, but after asking the Biologist about it he calmed down. The biologist said that the buck was very old probably close to 15 yrs and that his hormone levels most likely were really low and that is why the rack was so ugly and in velvet. Then he said if he would have got him in his prime it might have given the state record a run.

alecvg · « **Reply #20 on:** March 15, 2008, 12:10:29 AM »

is that unusual? I have never seen that before

groundhog · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2008, 04:07:10 PM »

Here is the buck my brothers kid shot. The local that we were talking to said that the buck had never shed the previous year but that he had broken off everything except about 6 inches of main beam. Then he started growing again. You can see where the new growth started right at the drop tine.

boneaddict · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2008, 05:09:13 PM »

Great buck Groundhog, glad you got it on here.

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