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Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« on: September 15, 2010, 08:26:22 AM »
Greetings all.  I am working to gather all the information I can which demonstrates WA is already overrun with wolves.  WDFW has been less than honest about the wolves and, thus far, have not publicly acknowledged sightings in Whatcom, Skagit, Kittitas, Yakima, or Walla Walla Counties.  Previous threads on Hunting Washington have discussed pictures from trail cameras, which WDFW has said are bogus.

Any help everyone can provide would be appreciated.  There will be a Wolf Work Session before the WA House Ag and Natural Resources Committee in December.

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Re: Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2010, 08:34:21 AM »
The search feature will bring up many threads regarding wolves.  I can't recall any posts that had verification of wolves in any areas other than where WDFW has already acknowledged their presence. 

Care to introduce yourself and tell us if you are working with an organization or alone on this? 
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Re: Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2010, 08:35:36 AM »
I would love to help. But I don't have any trail cams there. I would love to be kept up to date on this though.
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Re: Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2010, 08:40:30 AM »
i know there is a thread with a wolf pic in columbia county  :dunno: i have heard rumors about them around here close, but have not seen "proof"
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Re: Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2010, 08:43:09 AM »
i have heard of sighting around diablo.  :dunno: i wouldnt doubt it for one second.

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Re: Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2010, 08:53:42 AM »
i know there is a thread with a wolf pic in columbia county  :dunno: i have heard rumors about them around here close, but have not seen "proof"

Thats right I do remember that.  Seems like it was black and a pretty decent photo.  I think that WDFW has acknowledged wolves in the SE of WA but has not said they have a breeding pair which is their criteria for a pack if I'm not mistaken. 
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Re: Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2010, 08:57:07 AM »
i know there is a thread with a wolf pic in columbia county  :dunno: i have heard rumors about them around here close, but have not seen "proof"

Thats right I do remember that.  Seems like it was black and a pretty decent photo.  I think that WDFW has acknowledged wolves in the SE of WA but has not said they have a breeding pair which is their criteria for a pack if I'm not mistaken.  

That is accurate.
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Re: Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2010, 09:00:36 AM »
Well i am sort of hoping i can spot some this fall and get them on video, pups would be cool to, not that it will make them listen but its a shot  :dunno:
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2010, 09:05:18 AM »
Lowedog, nothing against you now you understand, but I believe there are times that sharing one's identification ASAP could harm the data. Trust me on this for the moment, please. If & when the person or organization wants to introduce themselves that is their choosing. Besides we wouldn't let a "terrorist" into the flock.

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Re: Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2010, 09:11:28 AM »
Lowedog, nothing against you now you understand, but I believe there are times that sharing one's identification ASAP could harm the data. Trust me on this for the moment, please. If & when the person or organization wants to introduce themselves that is their choosing. Besides we wouldn't let a "terrorist" into the flock.

No offense taken but it may help this person if someone does have info that could be of benefit to them if they know who they are and what they plan to do with the info once they have it. 

I mean if this is just some every day yahoo like me what could they possibly accomplish?   ;)
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Re: Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2010, 09:14:34 AM »
And hell i am only an every other day yahoo, so who knows what kind of stuff i could stir up  :chuckle:
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Re: Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2010, 09:16:02 AM »
We also have wolves in the following units:

Unit 117 - 49 Degrees - Wolf killed elk by road last winter, was seen by WDFW employee, too many wolf tracks to verify number of wolves.
Unit 121 - Huckleberry - Wolves spotted throughout unit by residents, deputy sherriff, plus 1 wolf hit by car near tum tum.
Unit 108 - Douglas - Two wolves spotted by rancher I lease from on his property. He knows wildlife, sees coyotes daily, no doubt they were wolf. Other wolves spotted in other locations.
Unit 105 - Kelly Hill - Adult Wolves and Pups have been spotted by a large number of locals, horse rancher worried, common knowledge breeding wolves are here. One confirmed wolf kill calf.
Unit 101 - Sherman - Wolves sighted throughout unit by many people in last couple years.
Unit 111 - Alladin - Two Wolves spotted by landowner last winter, her 3 dogs disappeared over the next couple days, dogs advertised on radio, never found or seen again.

Add this to Unit 113 and the Methow, there are probably enough wolves to delist in this state now. Talk to game wardens in NE WA, they probably can offer additional info about local sightings.

Almost forgot, I have picture of wolf near King Lake in southern Unit 113.
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Re: Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2010, 09:22:50 AM »
I'm working with members of the WA State House Republicans to make sure there is full disclosure by WDFW.  I am currently reviewing about 7,200 pages of documents from WDFW.  There was a post here showing a picture from a trail cam, identified as being around White Pass.  WDFW email disputed that claim and said it was from the Lookout Pack.  That's what led me here ... I'd like to produce proof of other wolves in areas not identified by WDFW.

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Re: Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2010, 09:27:41 AM »
They just had a trail cam pic on here from around tonasket didn't they?
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Re: Wolf Verification - Help Needed
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2010, 09:28:47 AM »
By the way good luck and I wish you the best. Hope you are successful.
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