Theres elk all around there, not permit only, can only shoot spikes, tons of guys. Find a deep nasty draw and sit down there and wait for the shooting to start, i bet if you wait long enough in an area with a good amount of sign you will get a herd to be pushed to you, just gotta look for that spike(usually following a herd of cows). I pretty much quit hunting elk unless i get a permit, id rather go kill ducks.