WA Muzzy Rules

[iceman91m]

So why is it that i cant use a t/c encore with powerbelts and a scope? I've never muzzy hunted but i wanted to start but not if i cant use powerbelts? Info would be much appriciated...


Thanks Y'all

[jackelope]

You can use powerbelts all you want, you just can't use the Encore or the scope.

[teanawayslayer]

you have to have an exposed breech, nipple to the elements.  and no scope. Get a different gun.

[halflife65]

Sometimes I have an exposed breech and a nipple to the elements.  Am I legal?

[bobcat]

Sometimes I have an exposed breech and a nipple to the elements.  Am I legal?

No. If it is "capable of being enclosed..." it's not legal.

[halflife65]

*censored*...

[J Snow73]

Then you will be modern rifle hunting really not much different then a single shot rifle

[rh4usmc]

Traditions has a new "NorthWest Edition" Vortex. its a break open but the nipple is exposed and comes with no.11 nipple not a 209 like all the rest have now days...

[carver52]

There once was a reason it was called a traditional hunt.  As in original style muzzy loaders, flintlocks etc.

[halflife65]

There might be some confusion - I personally sometimes have an exposed breach and a nipple to the elements.  I wondered if I was legal - It has nothing to do with my choice of weapon.  I'm no muzzleloader hunter.

I did draw the multi season tag one year, borrow a (legal) muzzleloader and shot a buck.  It was pretty cool and I would definitely consider taking up muzzleloader hunting.

From TC's new website:
http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/northwest_explorer.php

Description:

Thompson/Center answers the call of Northwest hunters with the new NorthWest Explorer™. With design features such as an exposed breech system, #11 cap ignition and metal sights, the NorthWest Explorer meets the legal regulations of western states like Idaho, Washington and Oregon. The drop breech design makes access to the breech simple for both loading and cleaning. Additionally, this muzzleloader features models with stainless steel barrels or barrels coated with T/C’s tough-as-nails, corrosion resistant Weather Shield™. So whatever the conditions, the NorthWest Explorer is ready to handle the elements.

This is something that I'll look into if I ever decide to buy one.

[WDFW Hates ME!!!]

I saw a non legal muzzy made legal by having a hole machined into the enclosure above the nipple, therefore exposing the musket cap.

[birdwacker]

I wouldn't recommend the tc nw explorer because it has a 1in48 twist and you want a 1in28 twist to stabilize sabots.

[halflife65]

I wouldn't recommend the tc nw explorer because it has a 1in48 twist and you want a 1in28 twist to stabilize sabots.

Thanks for the info.  Like I said, I'm not a muzzleloader hunter but I really do appreciate learning new things.  A lot of posts are just people spouting off about this or that (NOTHING wrong with that - I do it all the time) but once in a while I feel like I actually learn something...I'll read up more on barrel twist in muzzleloaders.

[rock]

yes no closed breech and no 209 primer.  would the buckhorn be considered open breech?

[Machias]

yes no closed breech and no 209 primer.  would the buckhorn be considered open breech?

Yes the buckhorn and elkhorn are considered legal in WA.