My buddy and I went out to our spot yesterday morning in pursuit of elk and right away we found a herd back in the timber so we put the stock on em and got within 50 yards of a few of the cows so I let one fly and it could'nt have been a more perfect shot but what I didn't see was a stick about 3'' in diameter sticking up right at her vitals and my arrow went right into that stick and stuck there and off went the elk. Oh well it was a awsome time and we'll get em before the 15th.