Winston Creek Hunting Incident 12-3-2010

[ribka]

i guess long story short, dont be an ahole and you wont have run ins with bigger aholes then yourself.

That's a good summary.
Now, everyone chill and enjoy the holidays...
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Bob
Now that is YAR material there!

[MLhunter1]

If you are on the elk first they do belong to you as long as they are in that area.  Thats the unwritten rule there.  I would always back off and give someone room to do their thing.  I would immediatley try to figure out where the elk will retreat to and cut them off far away from where the hunters entered.  Do it any other way and you are an A Hole.  

[remington300mag]

I can not believe some of the replies on here! Some of you are justifying this guy drawing a deadly weapon on someone!

First off, With IceMan's situation.... after talking with Ice in the hills this year I realized I know the guy that drove past him, quads are illegal where this guy was riding and he has no business in where he was! He was breaking the law....not to mention the guy is a real dip chit anyway! Ice did a great job of keeping a level head.....I wouldn't have!

Next, I will say this, If I am driving a public road, or any road that I have legal access to, and there is another vehicle blocking said road, trying to keep me out of somewhere I have every legal right to be....I will try my hardest every time to get past your rig! I will not purposely blow your hunt, at least any more than you are trying to blow mine by blocking the road!

Last of all, If you feel as if it is ever ok to draw a weapon at me or anyone in my family, you had better be damn well ready to use it!! I would have had know problem putting 3 rounds center mass into that S.O.B, and I would have slept just fine afterward! When he drew down....It becomes a "Him or me" situation....Even while backing up, if that bow was aimed at me, he would have been having lead coming at him! He put your life in immediate danger and for that he earned what was coming to him!

Sorry if I sound insensitive or even like a jerk about it..... witnessed a situation happen when I was young in the woods and it totally changed my view on when it is time to protect yourself! And in this case, it was time!

[chester]

I dont think anyone defended drawing a weapon in this entire thread.    that was beyond called for. Re read the thread. It should have never come to that. we more or less discussed how to avoid any situation that would come to that. and the doing anything you can to get by someone? yea you kinda do sound like a jerk. and im sure someone will start a thread on here about how you blew their hunt when you do. the black and white is going out of your way to not walk the last 1/4 mile, couple hundred yards to the end of a road. is a dick move. and all you would do is ruin your chances at success aswell as someone elses. while legal it shows almost zero respect for other people in the woods. so i guess if you cant get them nobody else should either right? in this thread your on a soap box. on others you would be refered to as a "road hunter" or "slob hunter". why would you try to go on top of someone like that? that in itself makes an unsafe situation. let alone ruin someone elses hunt. its not legally wrong. its just plain wrong to do that.

[chester]

refer to MLhunter1 post

[Lightning_Rider]

I dont think anyone defended drawing a weapon in this entire thread.    that was beyond called for. Re read the thread. It should have never come to that. we more or less discussed how to avoid any situation that would come to that. and the doing anything you can to get by someone? yea you kinda do sound like a jerk. and im sure someone will start a thread on here about how you blew their hunt when you do. the black and white is going out of your way to not walk the last 1/4 mile, couple hundred yards to the end of a road. is a dick move. and all you would do is ruin your chances at success aswell as someone elses. while legal it shows almost zero respect for other people in the woods. so i guess if you cant get them nobody else should either right? in this thread your on a soap box. on others you would be refered to as a "road hunter" or "slob hunter". why would you try to go on top of someone like that? that in itself makes an unsafe situation. let alone ruin someone elses hunt. its not legally wrong. its just plain wrong to do that.

If its a spur getting blocked, tough $hit. but if ur blocking the main road, then expect broken sticks in ur doorlocks and the oil drained from ur rig! The only thing that annoys me when someone blocks a spur is when they block half way down where there is no turnarounds At least be a courteous dick

[sportsman002001]

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     Re: Winston Creek Hunting Incident 12-3-2010
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Sport is always on here talking about dealing w/ all the people in the Winston but it seems that he may be part of the problem. He didn't say anything about the having a problem w/ anyone in the white Toyota all week in his first post and then later they were apparently breaking the rules all week? Sounds to me like Sport thinks he has special rights in the unit and if he see's elk he can drive by and do what all the other "jerks" in the unit do but he is not one of them. They probably blocked the road when they saw elk so some idiot would not drive around them and spook the elk. It appears that happened anyway. No one way should someone threaten or attempt to assault him and that it totally out of line. That is why people should try and get out of the rig and have some consideration if someone beats you out there. Sport I get the feeling that you are one of the guys that are up there, early bow, rifle, late bow and hunting w/ any weapon and with the "girlfriends" tag. Maybe they should lock the entire unit up and only let the walk in people come and that would solve the problem. Until then, I guess you have to deal w/ it but again, no way should it have gone that far.


SI Eagle,
As a matter of fact I have committed on people bitching about all the road hunters in this unit and you just have to learn to deal with it on the weekends. We do spend alot of time up there and follow weycos rules by mt biking or walking in on foot during the week. When you spend all that time doing that and you get the A-holes that don't follow the rules it gets old. It was not just the white toyota pickup it was others also. And I don't think at all nor would I ever think that I should have special rights to hunt up there. The bottom line is just follow the rules. The point here is that should not have been in there yet.

I can tell you that I do not hunt up there at all during early archery and I may make a trip or too during riffle elk season just to see what is going on.

Guardian made a comment on here earlier and he nailed it on the nose. My point is you just get tired of everyone breaking the rules up there and enough was enough that day. Yes, I already know that I should not of went around their truck but I was at my witts end with people not following the rules up there that week. That was the last thing I thought would happen was getting a weapn drawn.
 

[ML_Hunter]

Damn pricks!  I know that hunting that neck of the woods can be harsh.  I'll be sure to keep an eye out for a white yota.  Good job getting yourself out of harms way and getting out safely without any violence.  I've gotten into arguments in the woods, but never actually got into a fight or anywhere close as to the point you were.

[chester]

that was a fair answer to all of this sportsman. Two wrongs dont make a right. they shouldnt have been there, you shouldnt have went around. two wrongs. they took it further then expected. thank you for that last post.

[6x6rack]

Man, I'm glad your'e OK. Could have gone from bad to worse in a hurry. Drawing on you was total BS and he's lucky you responded with a cool head.

The roads thing is tough. Someone goes in hours early to a spot only to have their hunt messed up at the last minute by someone who slept in 2 extra hours "because they can".

Hunters seeing elk and knowing another hunter is on them, but going in anyway and spoiling someones hunt because "they have the legal right to do it".

Is it possible they did get permission from the truck driver, and didn't know he was not authorized to give it?

As for me, I never go around parked vehicles across a road. Someone got there first, good for them and good luck.

Bottom line is I'm truly glad this has a happy ending, but wondering if it could have been altogether avoided with a fellow hunter bagging an elk to boot?

Combat hunting sucks.

[chester]

Btw if you see a white toyota in the sw corner of the state. say hi   its probably me and lightning rider. never go to the winston unit though. but not all white yota's are occupied by people like that.

[Lightning_Rider]

and if lightning_rider is not in the yote with chester...feel free to give em the finger or run him into the ditch jk

[chester]

Thanks bud     

[huntnnw]

I come around the corner on a back country road and your blocking it!! YOU better be broke down, cause if your not I will MOVE your vehicle! end of story. What is with you people on here saying you shouldnt of drove around their rig wtf

[Lightning_Rider]

i watched some one yank a truck outta the way last year in eastern oregon...it was pretty funny