One less bull in the Tieton Dr. herd...

[grundy53]

My dad told the sheriff dispatch that they might be tribal. And the first question the game warden asked, before they asked if the bull was dead or what the hunters were doing now, was "Are they tribal?"

How did I know they were tribal??? I waited where the road they were on met pavement, saw they were tribal when they drove ten feet from me, and took down their license plate number. I called the gamies right away, told them the number at what way they were driving. They said, "Nothing we can do?"

And I am in no way making a racial attack. Just stating the facts of what I saw.

I agree that the topic is old. But 90% of the time on here it is "I heard from a friend of a friend that the Indians shot 6 bulls in the Colockum." I watched this entire "hunt." Just thought I'd share my frustration with the hunters as well as the sheriff/WDFW/Treaty of 1855/whatever else is to blame.

Would I condone the chasing of elk with vehicles and shooting from the road if it were white people? Hell no. I would have called the game wardens in that situation too.

and if they were white the gamies could have done somthing about it instead of having to let them get away with it.  

[bigmonster]

Maybe some should be fowarding this post and a good day for the tribe post to are governor and state reps to let them know that there is a problem that not being handled by local officials.

[bobcat]

How did I know they were tribal??? I waited where the road they were on met pavement, saw they were tribal when they drove ten feet from me, and took down their license plate number. I called the gamies right away, told them the number at what way they were driving. They said, "Nothing we can do?"

Not doubting you at all, just wondering how do you tell they are tribal, even if they are only 10 feet away? Do they have a different license plate or some sort of identification on their vehicles? Surely you can't be judging based only on the color of their skin? It seems to me that in a situation like that, law enforcement should come out and verify the "poachers" are in fact tribal members. Why would they just take your word for it? I'm only asking because I'd like to know for my own knowledge, in case I ever witness something like this.

[boneaddict]

Sorry Hardcorps....I may have inadvertently nuked your post.  It wasn't bad at all.  

Sounds like a solid case with your observations and the physical evidence.  Who taking the case?  Did you take pictures or video?  Some pictures through your spotting scope with a camera phone is better than nothing and can be cleaned up if necessary for identifications purposes.     
 

[Bigtine96]

Maybe some should be fowarding this post and a good day for the tribe post to are governor and state reps to let them know that there is a problem that not being handled by local officials.

They wont do anything this state is to liberal, the only way that there will ever be change is if we as sportsmen do something about it ourselves.

[Skyvalhunter]

Well a note to the editor of your local newspaper would help and make some people out there aware of things that are happening. It would be hard not to go up there and try to chase the elk off away from them. It's pathetic that they chased the bull in order to get it closer to the road so the lazy asses didn't have to work for it. You wonder why people get so pissed at krap like this.

[brutus1]

What we should do is kill all the elk to crop damage and let them rot so the game dept has something to do.  Cause you hear the same sh_t nothing we can do they are tribal members. With no elk and no deer maybe they would starve to death cause you know they won't work for anything hard. These so called tribal members are the lowest pieces of whale *censored* on earth to kill animals out of feeding stations. Why is it our sportsman dollars goes to feed this crap every year.     let us kill the big bulls and let them shoot spikes and cows.  Tired of hearing how they as law enforcement can't do anything. Change the seasons to 2 point and bigger and kill all the big bulls then these so called mighty hunters wouldn't waste their time on cows and spikes. Just my 2 cents worth sorry for getting on a soap box

[fishunt247]

Bobcat, the game warden literally asked, "Do they look tribal?" I've spent my entire life around and on the Yakama Reservation (I live like 15 minutes away, if that), and they definitely looked very tribal. There are tons of tribal members who are enrolled members who don't look a bit tribal. These guys were very Indian looking. My dad told them, "Yes. They look tribal." His response: "There is nothing we can do then."

They obviously didn't care enough, didn't want to waste our precious tax dollars, following this person. I thought why take pictures when the damn game wardens could come catch them in the act. Turns out they didn't care enough to hurry.

Being as it seems like my eyewitness testimony means nothing, maybe next time I'll say, "It looks like two white guys. They are very white." Maybe that would get their attention.

[bobcat]

Change the seasons to 2 point and bigger and kill all the big bulls then these so called mighty hunters wouldn't waste their time on cows and spikes. Just my 2 cents worth sorry for getting on a soap box

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Why do we have to save all the bulls, just so the tribal "poachers" can kill them? Let's open it up for everybody, any bull. Just think of how many less bulls the indians will be entering into the record books.  

[biggdogg]

All the stuff everybody talks about letter to the editor, state reps, this is what Doc Hastings has been trying to do for years so don't waste your or anybody else's time, and for info their is not a feeding station near tampico. One more question is why do they even feed the elk welfare elk in my opinion.

[boneaddict]

I think you'd be better off turning them in to Peta, or some group like that.

[bobcat]

Being as it seems like my eyewitness testimony means nothing, maybe next time I'll say, "It looks like two white guys. They are very white." Maybe that would get their attention.

Yes exactly, now I know what to say if I'm ever in the same situation.

Gee, couldn't a white guy just put some make up on to darken the skin up some, and maybe a wig, and go kill as many big bill elk as he wants? If that's all they're going to say when someone reports and incident like this- "do they look tribal?"  

[chester]

Did you happen to catch the GW name?

[MAVsled]

well at least you showed a great deal of restraint, dealing with your anger with observing the situation.
oneday, someone else will not. Part of me hopes they aren't caught. Then authorities will put the wheels in motion while the tribe wails their mourning.

I witnessed a similar incident 3 years ago in GMU 648. Tribal hunters, riding shotgun in the back of a pickup Truck with "native pride" bumper sticker, shot at 3 deer off the main logging road (back before it was blacktopped). Saw the whole thing as I had been viewing the deer with binos/spotting scope.

They didn't even get out of the back of the pickup. the truck driver angled the front end toward the clearcut and they started blasting over the top of the cab.  As I hiked down from my observation knob, archery gear, backpack and spotting scope in hand, they loaded the 2 deer onto two other deer in the back of the truck; 2 does, 2 bucks. I just kept on walking back to my rig along the main drag. And there was a sign on the next gate; deer sanctuary area. How ironic!
Then they had the balls to speed past me, swerving on my side of the shoulder, as if they were trying to kick up gravel from the tires treads in my direction/vicinity.

in short, I was fuming  

[Coastal_native]

It might be worth finding out what the enforcment number is for the tribe.  If you witness, or think you are witnessing a tribal game violation, then you can report it to them directly.  If they don't respond in some way then the tribe itself is guilty of not fullfilling their self regulatory obligations...which is a more serious issue than an individual poacher.  I think tribes in general have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to being able to prove that they can self regulate themselves, so maybe put it on the tribal game wardens...learn their regs and be ready to report.  

See what happens...it's worth a try.