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Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« on: December 15, 2010, 09:38:15 PM »
I'll relate an experience I had about 4 years ago. I shot Kent Fasteel #4's for a long time and they worked but I wasn't really satisfied either.
One afternoon sneaking into a duck spot while my lab quartered in front of me, I loaded my gun with 3" #4's at 1500 fps Kent Fasteel hoping my dog would put up some teal that were usually hiding in this bay.
To both of our surprise a big Canada goose jumped up at about 25 yds and since I was totally ready I hammered him in a typical jumping up and going away shot, 1st shot. The goose went down with feathers flying and my dog grabbed him right away. Cody brought me back a live goose and since it was so big and shot in the back, I figured it make a good specimen for plucking and roasting. I finished him off, tucked him behind a tree and completed the rest of my duck hunting for the afternoon.
Upon plucking that goose that night at home, I discovered that not one(1) pellet broke the skin. Not a single pellet. The skin showed about 50 small red spots like inflamed mosquito bites. I know, some of you are saying BS but I'm not exagerating. This was shot thru my Patternmaster also.
That was the deciding factor in me swiching to #2's for all duck hunting after that. No regrets since. Just wanted to share.
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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 09:40:30 PM »
Good story.
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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 09:42:17 PM »
3 inch 3's are a good all around load from quail to decoying geese. good to have a pocket full and another pocket with some bigger or smaller stuff depending on what you're hunting

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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2010, 09:43:54 PM »
I kill ducks(and a few geese) with nothing but 4's and 6's in 3" 1-1/4oz loads.  I only shoot 2's when I'm guiding and having to finish off birds a little further out.

I'd venture to say that your shot on the goose was a bit more than 25 yards possibly.  then again, the back is very bony and covered with thicker feathers than the breast.
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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2010, 09:52:37 PM »
I said the goose jumped up at about 25 yards. My reaction time probably costed 5+ yards since I was ready for something to jump up.
Also, since I switched from 4's to 2's, I hardly have any cripples compared to what I experienced with the 4's within reasonable yardages.
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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2010, 12:26:54 AM »
I shoot all 2's and some hevi metal 3's... they both work awesome
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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 01:08:55 AM »
i keep it simple, ducks get #2

geese get BB  :rolleyes:
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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2010, 05:38:54 AM »
I like the story myself. But it don't matter what I shoot the brids almost always have the last laugh.  :chuckle:

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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2010, 05:46:07 AM »
HeviMetal 3inch 2 shotfor all of em.

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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2010, 06:53:37 AM »
#4 for decoying ducks #2 and BBs for everything else. This year I'm trying 3 1/2 #3 they seam to be OK. One thing I have found out slow the steel shot down it works better. I'm loading 10 gage ammo this year with 2oz of #4 and boy do they whack the smaller geese and ducks.  :twocents:
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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2010, 07:01:45 AM »
3in #2's have never shot a goose
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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2010, 07:17:22 AM »
I posted a similar story on the upland board, only it was about a grouse shot with #6.  Steel doesn’t penetrate very well, particularly the smaller sizes.   

That’s why some people swear by Black Cloud.  It’s dirty, doesn’t pattern very well, but it does penetrate better.  (better but nowhere near as good as lead does)

To answer your question, no smaller than #2 for ducks, & BB for geese for me.  If nothing else it’s easier to find the larger shot when cleaning the bird.

PS – The state of Minnesota did a study a few years back on the effectiveness of steel shot on pheasants.  The study found that #2 shot out performed #4 on longer shots and the #4 provided no advantage over #2 at close range.  I wish I could find the link to that report but it seems to be gone.

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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2010, 07:42:48 AM »
Black Cloud 3" - #3 work well.  They create pretty good wound channels and bring them down if your shooting good.  Having said that if your practiced up and shooting well, if your shooting within reason 40 yards or less #5 - BB's will work for you.  #2's are a solid round.  Back in the lead days we shot #4's at ducks.  But I like having a pellet that I can see in order to pick out of the meat.  Steel shot breaks or cracks teeth.  Everyone has there own preferance.  Once you shoot a load for a while you get used to it.  You know the lead and everything seems to drop.  When you shoot a different box each time you go out, you deal with different speeds, sizes and other factors to add a greater handicap for the non practiced shooter.
I have been killing them with 2-3/4 & 3" #2 all season.  A few boxes of #3 have also done the job.  A few weeks back I went out with about 10 different brands of 3" from BB-4's.  I loaded all 3 shells different for testing.  The only one you really knew was way different was the Remington Hypersonic #2's.  A lot hotter load and those you will need a shorter lead.
Stick to a specific load that patterns well out of your gun, practice and you should shoot well.
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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2010, 03:35:41 PM »
I typically shoot 3 inch number 2's.  I bring a few BB's as well, just in case the 2's dont seem to be doing the job that day
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Re: Steel Shot Size - What Do You Use
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2010, 04:40:59 PM »
Shot mainly 4's last year (3"). Bought a bunch of 3's this year. Cant really tell any difference, dead is dead. I still bring some 2's along and usually a few bb's, but thise usually only get used if the geese fly over too close.

 


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