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« on: December 20, 2010, 11:23:33 PM »
Phil Andersen was at a meeting with wdfw employees a while back and said that we are not a hook and bullet club anymore also did you know that he came out of nowhere (not from wdfw)to top it off his family owns a bird watching boat!

This goes along with the upcoming merger and how screwed sportsmen are. we will all be watching native salmon being eatin by native americans with wolfs howling in the background.

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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 11:25:52 PM »
I think I may be moving to Montana.   :dunno:

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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2010, 08:26:14 AM »
Whats the season on greeners?
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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2010, 09:53:25 AM »
REZ-Hunter do you have any specifics on when/where the meeting was? and/or some other documentable facts? Its not that i disbelieve you but i believe in trust though verification.  ;)  This could be a very bad omen for this state...
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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2010, 04:30:14 PM »
ya but im not going to mention names sorry

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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 04:33:01 PM »
Mostmeetings are a matter of public record... if this was at a "closed" meeting then i guess you cannot give any info... If it were a public one then all you have to do is let us know the when and where...  :twocents:
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2010, 04:43:23 PM »
It was at a regional office meeting for state employees.

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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 04:44:18 PM »
Whats the season on greeners?

I believe they are not a native species (evasive, being most probably came from CA.) ,so they are not regulated by fish and game. Can anyone say no limits and year around season?
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 04:46:32 PM »
From his BIO...

Anderson, age 59, served as WDFW's deputy director for resource policy for more than a year before being appointed interim director.

Anderson previously served as assistant director of WDFW's Intergovernmental Resource Management Program, leading the department's North of Falcon team which sets annual salmon-fishing seasons for marine waters including Puget Sound and the coast. Anderson also is WDFW's representative to the Pacific Fishery Management Council (PFMC).

Anderson joined WDFW in 1994 after serving seven years on the PFMC as a private citizen, including duties as PFMC vice chairman and chairman. Anderson began his professional fishery career over 30 years ago as owner and operator of a charter fishing boat business. He attended Grays Harbor College.

Anderson and his wife, Chris, live in Westport and have two sons. Anderson is an avid hunter, fisher and birdwatcher, and has served as a school board member of the Ocosta School District.   
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2010, 04:51:10 PM »
 :whoo: That one is native, can't tag it.
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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2010, 04:56:17 PM »
Phil Anderson is a better director for WDFW than Jeff Koenings was, by several orders of magnitude.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2010, 05:42:45 PM »
what was meant by came out of nowhere was he did not come from enforcement, parks, or hatcheries you remember people that bring the money in. im not saying he is a bad person!

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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2010, 06:09:58 PM »
Phil Anderson is a better director for WDFW than Jeff Koenings was, by several orders of magnitude.

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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2010, 08:05:15 PM »
Phil Anderson is a better director for WDFW than Jeff Koenings was, by several orders of magnitude.

Boy...that's not saying much.  He was Koenings' assistant and was selected by Koenings for that position...you do know that...right?  I assume you do or perhaps that was after you left.
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2010, 08:23:02 PM »
"Anderson began his professional fishery career over 30 years ago as owner and operator of a charter fishing boat business."

That is pretty mis-leading.....professional fisheries career?  Makes him sound like he has the credentials to qualify to manage a resource agency.  I don't consider a charter boat operator as a "professional" fisheries manager....sorry.  You may disagree, but the Wildlife Commission did a lousy job selecting a new Director if the only person they felt was qualified was someone without the necessary education and background.  More of a you've been here under Koenings fit....which is nothing more than a management short changing of Washington's wildlife resource and sportsman opportunities.

Nothing personal, but from what I understand, he would not even qualify for an interview anywhere in the country for a Fish and Wildlife Director, based on his background.  In my opinion, the Wildlife Commission is nothing more than a bureaucratic panel...they remind me of a school board.  Sorry....used to believe that was the way to go....no more.  They do little of any significance for any of us. :twocents: 
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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2010, 01:23:19 PM »
Phil Andersen was at a meeting with wdfw employees a while back and said that we are not a hook and bullet club anymore ...

Can you document this?????
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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2010, 10:43:40 PM »
....... In my opinion, the Wildlife Commission is nothing more than a bureaucratic panel...they remind me of a school board.  Sorry....used to believe that was the way to go....
ya that *censored* went out the window when the greenies came up with a new method.....1. pool money together with a few rich friends 2. pay lawyers 3. sue government 4. get what you want
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2010, 11:03:52 PM »
WaCenturion - I don't disagree with any point you made.  A pile of dog vomit would be a better director than Koenings.  I do believe Anderson is better than Koenings.  I also agree that the Commission is a joke.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2010, 08:30:27 AM »
WaCenturion - I don't disagree with any point you made.  A pile of dog vomit would be a better director than Koenings.  I do believe Anderson is better than Koenings.  I also agree that the Commission is a joke.

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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2010, 02:00:59 PM »
Doublelung and Wacenturion you guys are giving me warm fuzzies all over....NOT!   :(
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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2010, 02:38:00 PM »
Miranda Wheckter is the hand of the devil...
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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2010, 06:08:25 PM »
I spoke with Phil Andersen at a roundtable meeting in Ellensburg this year. I had my topics to cover at the meeting which I was there to speak about trapping but after the meeting I had an off the record talk with him about hunting and predators. First of all to call him an avid hunter is a stretch. He has hunted but it's been a while. He told me the last time he hunted big game was more then 20 years ago. He is very concerned with fishing and that was why he was hired, not for big game.
I went over the reasons why predators are ruining the hunting and why it would benefit the WDFW to do something about it. He agreed with me but said he would not go there because it is not politically expedient. Not his exact words but pretty damn close.
I think he knows what the score is and ain't a bad guy but he plays the politics of Olympia. There in lies the real problem. As long as Puget Sound elects enough bunny huggers to control the state we'll get more of the same.
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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2010, 06:29:25 PM »
Phil Andersen was at a meeting with wdfw employees a while back and said that we are not a hook and bullet club anymore...

Too bad we couldn't organize all of us "hook and bullet" people to not purchase licenses, permits, etc. for a year.  We would find out real quick what kind of club they want to be! 
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« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2010, 06:51:02 PM »
Well put Lowedog, I like your thinking

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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2010, 07:25:34 AM »
Phil Andersen was at a meeting with wdfw employees a while back and said that we are not a hook and bullet club anymore...

Too bad we couldn't organize all of us "hook and bullet" people to not purchase licenses, permits, etc. for a year.  We would find out real quick what kind of club they want to be! 


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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2010, 09:30:01 AM »
I think Anderson is not against the hunting groups, but supports them.  His statements are reflective of the fact that WDFW is responsible for managing all of the fish and wildlife resources in the state and the fishers and hunters can not be expected to pay for it all (which they don't - they only pay for game resource management).  By WDFW openly having a broader scope (diversity species) they can work to get funds from the groups that enjoy those species to help pay for the management of them.

He is way better then Koenings who had no care for any resource other than salmon.

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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2010, 09:59:04 AM »
I have heard that same argument before Melanitta.. I know some of this is true... Grant work makes up a large part of the Bios pay... WHEN they get the grants... I challenge you or anyone else to show me the money trial that shows what you say is true... I think it is "easier" for the WDFW to operate off grants instead of the Pitmans roberts funds and lic sales...
The state in general has used the "Dedicated funds" argument with us on many other subjects.... The reality is it is only used to divide and conqure us... I think the WDFW should ONLY do fish and game species that they have or want to do LIC for... As a hunter i am also interested in conservation, but i'm first and formost interested in the HUNTABLE species that the WDFW are caretakers of.... If Non hunters want to tax themselves more  then so be it... I highly doubt that is the case... I would pay 2x as much for my lic and such if the WDFW was a closed entity and self/closed funded... I think many of the rest of us may as well...  However since there is little trust(the key issue)Myself and others will prioritise our spending and will trim back... I no longer Fish in this state, and trimmed back my licence spending... Not because i couldn't afford it, but because I feel the only way to send a message is though the power of the dollar.
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