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AR-15 Triggers
« on: January 20, 2011, 08:56:37 AM »
I've got a new AR-15 coming in the mail (at least the upper is: lower goes through FFL).  It's a straight Mil-Spec unit from Bravo Company in 16" mid-length configuration.  My question is about the trigger.  I see plenty of upgrade aftermarket triggers available for ridiculous prices, but is there a need to upgrade the stock trigger?  Can a gunsmith tune the trigger that comes stock with the rifle to help increase accuracy?  Or am I worrying about a nonexistent problem?
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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2011, 09:07:29 AM »
I have a Rock River. The trigger was nearly 8 lbs. I had the trigger replaced with a 3 lb. one. I could find out the brand if you want ? I think it was $70
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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2011, 09:52:59 AM »
The standard AR15 trigger can not be modified.  Don't even try.  The only result will be an unsafe trigger.  All my ARs have the Rock River two-stage National Match trigger which is a great improvement.  Timney and Jewell also make replacement triggers and guys that have them like them.  None of them are cheap, but accuracy is improved over the military standard trigger.
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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2011, 10:07:14 AM »
+1 for Timney, heard nothing but great things about their drop-in kits

I personally haven't put one in my AR, the trigger weight was never something I noticed enough to change, though if I used it exclusively for varmint hunting/etc, I'd probably do the upgrade
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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2011, 10:32:32 AM »
The standard AR15 trigger can not be modified. 

Not strictly true there, I have one that I "modified" down under 2 lbs before I started getting light strikes, no argument on the Rock River NM trigger though, I ended up putting one in mine since I needed to replace the old after over-modifying  :chuckle: and the RRA NM is a very consistent and dependable 2 stage trigger.
The reason there are so many Ruger upgrades is because they're necessary.

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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2011, 11:05:49 AM »
Drop $9 on JP springs, the yellow ones. It will make your trigger about 50% of factory and is an easy 10 minute job.... IMO I'd stay away from the '15 minute trigger job' that is internet famous

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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2011, 11:21:47 AM »
+2 for Timney. If you don't know anything about how triggers work and how to modify them it is best and safest to put a drop in trigger. It only takes a few minutes to do on the AR. I found it cheaper to go straight to Timney than buy it at other places. Usually its the other way around.

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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2011, 11:54:20 AM »
+3 Timney. I jsut ut one into my R-15 and I love it. There is one on Midway for like $113 that gets really good reviews. Can't recal the name right now. Also, if you youtube ar-15 triggers there is a few little mods that you can make to the one you have. I did them to my back up Ar-15 and they seem to help. If you have the $200 to spend get the Timney.
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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2011, 12:00:13 PM »
Drop $9 on JP springs, the yellow ones. It will make your trigger about 50% of factory and is an easy 10 minute job.... IMO I'd stay away from the '15 minute trigger job' that is internet famous

Just curious what you don't like about it? I used this technique for my original springs, keep in mind I had already ordered the JP springs after all there only 9 dollars. I did not use the technique on the sear though I pulled it out of the gun and used a polishing wheel on a Dremel with a very light polishing compound. As to not remove any metal just polish what was there. With both these modifications my S&W M&P went from 7-8 lbs unpredictably to a consistent 4.25 lbs. Still has some creep in it but its much smoother. The JP springs are in the mail so there not in it yet.

I agree you can't go wrong with a Timney aftermarket trigger. Wish I had the money to put one in every gun I have.

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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2011, 01:56:46 PM »
Just curious what you don't like about it? I used this technique for my original springs, keep in mind I had already ordered the JP springs after all there only 9 dollars. I did not use the technique on the sear though I pulled it out of the gun and used a polishing wheel on a Dremel with a very light polishing compound. As to not remove any metal just polish what was there. With both these modifications my S&W M&P went from 7-8 lbs unpredictably to a consistent 4.25 lbs. Still has some creep in it but its much smoother. The JP springs are in the mail so there not in it yet.

I agree you can't go wrong with a Timney aftermarket trigger. Wish I had the money to put one in every gun I have.

I'm just not comfortable with the long term reliability of bent/shortened springs. The polishing of the sear and hammer are not really a concern to me as that makes sense, but the bending or cutting of springs doesn't sit well with me.

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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2011, 02:02:03 PM »
bending or cutting of springs doesn't sit well with me.

It really doesn't hurt anything, the worst possible outcome of this with an AR's trigger is light strikes.
The reason there are so many Ruger upgrades is because they're necessary.

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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2011, 03:23:17 PM »
+4 for Timney.  :tup:  I dropped one (#3) in my heavy-barreled AR.  The difference is night and day... lighter pull, crisper pull, zero creap.  Definitely worth the $200.00 investment... now, I can consistently shoot .50 MOA or better.   Probably, going to drop a #4 Timney in my "M4" build.
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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2011, 03:59:05 PM »
I've got 3 Timney triggers sitting in a drawer, Went back to the RR 2 stage national match. Just depends, A lot of people have a tough time getting used to a 2 stage. I think they break over better than the timney.
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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2011, 04:38:48 PM »
These are hands down the best trigger for an AR-15 I've ever owned.  The military is probably their biggest customer. 
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Re: AR-15 Triggers
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2011, 08:40:49 AM »
It really doesn't hurt anything, the worst possible outcome of this with an AR's trigger is light strikes.

True... and the same exists with the JP springs if using commie surplus ammo, but it's just one of those things that i'm not comfortable with for an unexplainable reason.

 


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