Wolves

[jackelope]

The game department in Washington was caught even pictures taken of them releasing wolves. End of story.

Are these the same pics that Rockholm posted or passed on to another member on here in the past?

I suspect they are. We've already figured out what the real source of those pics is.

[bearpaw]

Now take a look at the WDFW wolf pages and you will see Defenders of Wildlife propaganda. They have made it much harder to find, but it is still there. No wonder hunters do not trust WDFW.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/livestock_wolves08.pdf

Of course they will have links all over the WDFW pages, they are the ones forking over the money for loss due to depredation, and offering assistance in that funny stuff they think keeps wolves away.If I was in that kind of business and was fronting lots of money as they have I would demand links to my site on theirs as well.

luvtohnt, if you look at Idaho as soon as the wolves were overpopulated and they tried to manage them, Defenders shut off the dollars for depredation. THAT IS FACT

Honestly, I think you need to get off their KoolAid, I can't believe you are sucked in by that ploy....

[mulehunter]

   oh sh$t.   Here we go......  what I believe 30 miles forest fire somewhere 2005 or 2006 made those pack move down settle down there since no one knows we have some wolves above okanagon county. Who knows what's truth. I feel sometime they possible did released but I can't prove it anyway so I try to respect everybody and now The key thing is wolfbait and we all people need to do is  adjust way to set trail camera and scouting around and count how many wolves.  We know wolves destroy our hunting future. But need set up better tool from all hunters. What I would like keep information. To gamewarden and bio where exactly location. They will work on catch them and count it up to 15 hp that way we know what truth out there.  We can't sit at home complaint all the times.  We can't wipe out all wolve due to everyone has feeling. It will be always be a fair for two sides.

world is falling apart everyday. It is so hard for one person want everyone to agree eachother wont happen. Now we have million different of side feeling. So we all have to let govt handle it. And we still fight for what we believe in.




Mulehunter.

[mulehunter]

Now take a look at the WDFW wolf pages and you will see Defenders of Wildlife propaganda. They have made it much harder to find, but it is still there. No wonder hunters do not trust WDFW.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/livestock_wolves08.pdf

Of course they will have links all over the WDFW pages, they are the ones forking over the money for loss due to depredation, and offering assistance in that funny stuff they think keeps wolves away.If I was in that kind of business and was fronting lots of money as they have I would demand links to my site on theirs as well.

luvtohnt, if you look at Idaho as soon as the wolves were overpopulated and they tried to manage them, Defenders shut off the dollars for depredation. THAT IS FACT

Honestly, I think you need to get off their KoolAid, I can't believe you are sucked in by that ploy....

I remember the rancher name larry who lost their cows to wolves while ago. They did have gamewarden confirmed wolves kill. And I do have pics of him as gamedept behind death cow of mother and missing calf gone to pups. But biologlist and his group disagree with this gamewarden. That's  Why wolves are protected.     so are we all not important to those dept of wdfw but they keep $ in pocket. Because biologlist is above gamewarden. Biologlist said it is not  wolf kill.  Go figure.

Mulehunter.   

[boneaddict]

I wonder if anyone has proof or photos of bass being planted in Chopaka lake.  This has nothing to do with the WDFW.  It has all to do with a special interest group that wants bass to be in that lake.   Is it so far fetched to believe that a group with far reaching tenticles and deep pockets couldn't help the wolf re-population along.  

At this point it doesn't matter how they got there.  I think we should all be concerned that THEY ARE HERE.   I don't need evidence to prove to me where they are at.   I really don't need to prove it to anyone.  One of these days you all are going to wake up and go, where'd my hunting rights go.  

[bearpaw]

I wonder if anyone has proof or photos of bass being planted in Chopaka lake.  This has nothing to do with the WDFW.  It has all to do with a special interest group that wants bass to be in that lake.   Is it so far fetched to believe that a group with far reaching tenticles and deep pockets couldn't help the wolf re-population along.  

At this point it doesn't matter how they got there.  I think we should all be concerned that THEY ARE HERE.   I don't need evidence to prove to me where they are at.   I really don't need to prove it to anyone.  One of these days you all are going to wake up and go, where'd my hunting rights go.  

Very well explained....

[jackelope]

The whole point about wolves is it base on junk science and criminal Fraud. In Michigan the USFWS illegally trap wolves in MN planted them in Michigan admitted to doing this for 2 years then change the story to nope they magically migrated there in the summer. LMAO but most people have no clue that is lie. Then we exposed the biggest lie ever told on wolves there has never been a documented wolf attack. Sure only a moron believe that LIE I found over 100 people killed in North America by wolves. The game department in Washington was caught even pictures taken of them releasing wolves. End of story. Now if you had real biologist that actually care about hunters they would in fact pass a law outlawing these illegal Canadian wolves and ban them from your state. If you don't get these killers out of your state right now your hunting is over in 15 years, ranchers will be forced out of business dogs ripped to shreds right in front of people.

Bruce...
Is this the release photos you're talking about?

[mulehunter]

I wonder if anyone has proof or photos of bass being planted in Chopaka lake.  This has nothing to do with the WDFW.  It has all to do with a special interest group that wants bass to be in that lake.   Is it so far fetched to believe that a group with far reaching tenticles and deep pockets couldn't help the wolf re-population along.  

At this point it doesn't matter how they got there.  I think we should all be concerned that THEY ARE HERE.   I don't need evidence to prove to me where they are at.   I really don't need to prove it to anyone.  One of these days you all are going to wake up and go, where'd my hunting rights go.  

Very well explained....

X4

Mulehunter

[JackOfAllTrades]

At this point it doesn't matter how they got there.  I think we should all be concerned that THEY ARE HERE.   I don't need evidence to prove to me where they are at.   I really don't need to prove it to anyone.  One of these days you all are going to wake up and go, where'd my hunting rights go.

Example:

How many have noticed that we don't have near as many Salmon fishing opportunities as we did before California Sea Lions and Orca's were listed endangered?

-Steve

We have a problem here in BC, Canada Also. The wolves have moved as far down south here at the town of Mission which is in the lowermainland.

Kyle, can you send me some links/documentation about Wolves being so far south to Mission? Anything south of the Frasier river? Any in the area around Hope?

-Steve

[Wenatcheejay]

I saw a wolf on top of Stevens Pass a few years ago. Does that make me a F^ck because I don't have a picture?

This site/threads sure have gotten hostile. Maybe some people aren't getting any?

[Lowedog]

I wonder if anyone has proof or photos of bass being planted in Chopaka lake.  This has nothing to do with the WDFW.  It has all to do with a special interest group that wants bass to be in that lake.   Is it so far fetched to believe that a group with far reaching tenticles and deep pockets couldn't help the wolf re-population along.  

At this point it doesn't matter how they got there.  I think we should all be concerned that THEY ARE HERE.   I don't need evidence to prove to me where they are at.   I really don't need to prove it to anyone.  One of these days you all are going to wake up and go, where'd my hunting rights go.  

That is a fine comparison you made.  The glaring difference in this particular situation is that there are claims that WDFW is planting wolves all across the state and you know who is claiming to have proof.  

I don't find it so hard to believe that Defenders or the like would go as far as to transplant wolves to WA but when someone starts making the accusations that WDFW is aiding and abetting then I start wondering if they are wearing their tin foil hat.  

I think most on here are in agreement that wolves are in WA.  Maybe not how many and definitely not how they got here but we can agree we have them and we would like a strong and practical management plan.

[Wenatcheejay]

I wonder if anyone has proof or photos of bass being planted in Chopaka lake.  This has nothing to do with the WDFW.  It has all to do with a special interest group that wants bass to be in that lake.   Is it so far fetched to believe that a group with far reaching tenticles and deep pockets couldn't help the wolf re-population along.  

At this point it doesn't matter how they got there.  I think we should all be concerned that THEY ARE HERE.   I don't need evidence to prove to me where they are at.   I really don't need to prove it to anyone.  One of these days you all are going to wake up and go, where'd my hunting rights go.  

Agreed
That is a fine comparison you made.  The glaring difference in this particular situation is that there are claims that WDFW is planting wolves all across the state and you know who is claiming to have proof.  

I don't find it so hard to believe that Defenders or the like would go as far as to transplant wolves to WA but when someone starts making the accusations that WDFW is aiding and abetting then I start wondering if they are wearing their tin foil hat.  

I think most on here are in agreement that wolves are in WA.  Maybe not how many and definitely not how they got here but we can agree we have them and we would like a strong and practical management plan.

[jackelope]

 

[Curly]

The wolf topic sure is a hot one isn't it???  One message board I used to visit a lot before this one started up won't even let members discuss wolves (or sealions) because of how heated it gets at times.

[jackelope]

The wolf topic sure is a hot one isn't it???  One message board I used to visit a lot before this one started up won't even let members discuss wolves (or sealions) because of how heated it gets at times.

I would not be opposed to that.