OK, thanks for the help… And for the record there are some nice areas that people can only get to in 4x4’s, horse, or foot that get you real close to areas to hunt the high buck. I was hoping I might find others that new of these places too, and might be able to swap info. I have not hunted high buck this way for 5 years and am planning on starting up again this year. I did not try to offend and apologize if I did. Good luck.