What would you do with 23 elk points?

[Dan-o]

I would sedate myself.... because with 23 points I couldn't wait for the draw.

[trophyhunt]

I talked to a guy who's son had drew the dayton muzzy 3 or 4 years ago and he had 23 or 24 points and didn't draw the same tag his son did with i think 7.  Last year I didn't draw the muzzy tag in the blues and I had 15 points, the 3 people that did draw had 2,4,and6 points.  So anyone can draw with any amount of points, I wouldn't be shocked if 23 points didn't draw you a tag. Sorry for the bit of negativaty but I've been waiting since I was in my 20's for a tag like the blues and all it's done is give me the blues.

[Scott]

I talked to a guy who's son had drew the dayton muzzy 3 or 4 years ago and he had 23 or 24 points and didn't draw the same tag his son did with i think 7.  Last year I didn't draw the muzzy tag in the blues and I had 15 points, the 3 people that did draw had 2,4,and6 points.  So anyone can draw with any amount of points, I wouldn't be shocked if 23 points didn't draw you a tag. Sorry for the bit of negativaty but I've been waiting since I was in my 20's for a tag like the blues and all it's done is give me the blues.

Not true...i know a guy who dru..with at least 13 points last year in the blues!  Thats in unit 154.

[trophyhunt]

whats not true?? I know people did draw with 13 points but in the wenaha west last year muzzy the 3 people had 2, 4, and 6 points. that came streight from the wdfw.  Anyway, all this waiting has been a drag. I was just thinking about this years draw and thought about putting in for a ghost point for quality and putting in for a bull tag on the west side which should be a heck of alot easier to draw. Atleast then I can plan on hunting big bulls in the rut.

[Bob33]

So this topic is making me feel worse about my chances of getting drawn . From what I can gather with my 16 points this year I still don't have much of a chance this year? Is this what I hearing??? what do you guys think?  I will be applying for muzzy in the dayton and wenaha.

With 16 points you have odds of drawing an elk permit somewhere between about 2% and 100%.  What more can you expect, really?  In 2010 there was one Lick Creek bull tag and about 550 applicants.  How many people can draw that one tag?

There are quite a few applicants with lots of points putting in for the very best tags in places like the Blues.  Someone with 1 point can draw.  Odds with 16 points are 256 times better than someone with 1 point, but that does not guarantee a tag.

You have a much better chance with 16 points than the average applicant.  Go for the tag you really want.

[trophyhunt]

Your giving me hope and with all the years waisting away on spike hunting that's hard to find. I'm just glad I've been able to hunt and kill bulls in Idaho for the past few years. You are right I know, I been saying that to myself for a long time..... just hold out for the tag you really want....ok, I'll stick to my guns and put in for what I believe is the best tag in the blues....for now anyway.

[trophyhunt]

I know one thing for sure, if I do draw the wenaha tag for muzzy I will definetly hire Mntcook to set me up in the wilderness. Since I won't be putting in for the east after I do draw, I would want the experience to be the best it can be. I just wish he could guide in the dayton aswell.  I will put the dayton as my first choice since it seems the biggest bulls come from there, the only draw back about drawing the dayton would be the fact that I couldn't experience the product that mntcook has in his area's.

[Bob33]

I know one thing for sure, if I do draw the wenaha tag for muzzy I will definetly hire Mntcook to set me up in the wilderness. Since I won't be putting in for the east after I do draw, I would want the experience to be the best it can be. I just wish he could guide in the dayton aswell.  I will put the dayton as my first choice since it seems the biggest bulls come from there, the only draw back about drawing the dayton would be the fact that I couldn't experience the product that mntcook has in his area's.

If you draw a Dayton tag, I suspect you'll have quite a few offers to help

[trophyhunt]

That would be amazing, I've been in the wenaha and dayton border area before but my buddy had the wenaha tag so we didn't get much time to cover that area. Certain places did look very nice in the dayton though. I'll  have to wait and see what happens, well we are leaving to go get some clams on the coast talk to you later and thanks.

[SkookumHntr]

whats not true?? I know people did draw with 13 points but in the wenaha west last year muzzy the 3 people had 2, 4, and 6 points. that came streight from the wdfw.  Anyway, all this waiting has been a drag. I was just thinking about this years draw and thought about putting in for a ghost point for quality and putting in for a bull tag on the west side which should be a heck of alot easier to draw. Atleast then I can plan on hunting big bulls in the rut.

-You might wanta check your info on that!

[Magnum_Willys]

I think the odds are even lower when you figure the effects of squaring the points - if you had 7 people with points from 1 through 7 they would have a total of 140 "chances" in the drawing.  Take another 7 people each with 8 to 14 points and they would have 1100 "chances".  The result is there are more "chances" in the pot than if just figuring everyone at 7.5 years squared.

 In the end with 23 pts you still need to be lucky to draw, with less than 14 points you need to be real lucky.

[trophyhunt]

the last guy is depressing me...... Anyway it's all about luck of the draw.  We just got to ocean shores checked in to our room and 3 deer walked up to our room, cold beer and deer outside pretty cool.  And soon fresh clams!!!!

[coachcw]

ok let's just put in for parnters in 340 archery and put you on a bull 

[bucklucky]

whats not true?? I know people did draw with 13 points but in the wenaha west last year muzzy the 3 people had 2, 4, and 6 points. that came streight from the wdfw.  Anyway, all this waiting has been a drag. I was just thinking about this years draw and thought about putting in for a ghost point for quality and putting in for a bull tag on the west side which should be a heck of alot easier to draw. Atleast then I can plan on hunting big bulls in the rut.

-You might wanta check your info on that!

I was going to say I was pretty sure one of the muzzy guys had a ass load of points last year in the wenaha west 

[bow4elk]

I have 14 Oregon elk points, 11 Colorado elk points, and 7 Nevada elk points and a decent 6 point Wyoming bull on the wall, so a good Rosevelt is really apealing to me. Probably my only chance at a good Rosevelt. I have shot lots of raghorn Rosevelts but never a good one.

You're about 3 years out on a Wenaha elk tag in OR (keep after it!!!), about 10 years+ or so for CO elk (I have 16pts), NV is a crap shoot.  I'd consider a west side Rosey hunt based on your desire to take a mature bull.  Everyone is different but I'd rather take a 300" class Roosevelt than a 350" Rocky Mtn bull.  Just me, I love big chunky Rosies.