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Re: WEIMARANER VS GERMAN SHORTHAIR
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2011, 01:00:08 PM »
My vote is a GSP, they can go, go , go. Never hunted over a weim though, I saw quite a few others mention it too but it's probly easier to find a good birdy GSP then a weim.

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Re: WEIMARANER VS GERMAN SHORTHAIR
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2011, 01:52:20 PM »
Not even close in comparison,The blue haired bench ladies have ruined the weim chasing a color scheme. I've seen enough of them to know that I've never seen what would be considered good.I'd say a stellar weim would be comparable to a well below average performance from a shorthair.I've been around enough weims to say this as well......................I wouldn't trust them around small kids.If a weim tips the scales at more than 50 pounds your either overfeeding it or it's 100% show bred.

  Any breed that is non  mainstream popular will increase the dud ratio IMO.Examples would be the weim,visla,munsterlander large and small,and pudelpointer.Small genetic pools to draw desired qualities from.Add to this the potential of backyard willy nilly breeding and the success rate will drop even further.

  For a better than average chance on a versatile I'd stick with the GSP as a first choice

Pretty much 90% of this post is untrue.  Weims got a bad name in the 80's for being inbred.  It was really hard to find a true hunting line.  However, it is much improved in the past 20 years.  I have had a part in training and hunting behind several of them.  They are excellent family dogs, and are being bred larger but that is no different that what labs have gone through. 
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Re: WEIMARANER VS GERMAN SHORTHAIR
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2011, 12:23:48 PM »
I've read and been told the average guy will have the most success with a GSP. Makes since. Same is true of retrievers. The GSP is the Lab of the pointer world. They don't win trials and stay popular because they aren't good dogs.

Weims are cool looking dogs but, you gotta find what floats your boat, not someone elses'.

I have Chessies. they are harder to train than labs but, they float my boat.....
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Re: WEIMARANER VS GERMAN SHORTHAIR
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2011, 08:46:55 PM »
Very well put Happy!

Its going to be easier to find a good hunting GSP than weim......not to say there arent good weims out there just fewer.

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Re: WEIMARANER VS GERMAN SHORTHAIR
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2011, 11:25:57 PM »
Anyone who does not research the parents or previous litters and their abilities might be unhappy with what they get.  Do your homework.  You will have this dog a long time.
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Re: WEIMARANER VS GERMAN SHORTHAIR
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2011, 10:15:59 AM »
The Weims I've been around are sort of, well, not really into birds like the average bred GSP's I've been around. I'm sure they are out there but, you can get a kick-arse GSP for $400. You're going to pay double that for a Weim with no hunting history and probably 3-4X that for one with parents that are proven in a hunt test or trial.

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