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Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« on: April 04, 2011, 07:09:01 PM »
Hi all. New here to the forum and thank you all for the great info on these existing posts.  I will be moving from MT to Forks, WA this spring and am trying to do as much homework as I can upfront about the hunting situation.  I know I am spoiled like crazy here in MT with long seasons for elk and deer and not having a choose your weapon season.  My passion is archery for elk, mainly because it coincides with the rut, at least in MT.  I enjoy the rifle too, and have never done the muzzle loader thing.  My question is, is any one weapon season "better" than the other?  Defining "better" for me takes into account; length of season, fewer other hunters, and success or number of elk encounters.  I enjoy getting in deep and away from other hunters if possible.  Thoughts or advice in general on getting into those Roosies?  Thanks!
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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011, 07:17:12 PM »
 Welcome to the site
Archery definatly has advantages,look into the regs and see what seasons ya like best
Caution: Be careful deciding to go IN DEEP anywhere in that area without knowing the area, alot of big thick wet and dark country.Not a bad idea to hook up with someone who is familiar with the area
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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 07:47:17 PM »
Welcome to the site!
I archery hunt elk on the east side, so am not much help on the west side.  But there are a lot of great folks on here that will offer up some great advice. 

To me, if archery is your passion, like it is for me - it would not matter the season.  Archery hunting elk in Sept is as good as it gets for me!

Good luck to you!

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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 11:47:07 PM »
Welcome to the site and Washington.
I Archery hunt myself,  Will only use other weapons if/when drawn for Multi.
seems like the rut doesn't get into full swing with the Roosies until the last week of September (after archery) but pre-rut and a few hot bulls make it worthwhile..
 Muzzleloader seasons are pretty short and limited units, I dont even think they have a ML season near Forks, unless you head north.
It has been a long time since I have been out during modern, but I hear it is a zoo...
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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2011, 05:41:12 AM »
Welcome to the site and Washington.
I Archery hunt myself,  Will only use other weapons if/when drawn for Multi.
seems like the rut doesn't get into full swing with the Roosies until the last week of September (after archery) but pre-rut and a few hot bulls make it worthwhile..
 Muzzleloader seasons are pretty short and limited units, I dont even think they have a ML season near Forks, unless you head north.
It has been a long time since I have been out during modern, but I hear it is a zoo...

 :yeah:Couldent have said it better! I hunt the Clearwater unit and last year because of hunting schedule issues with my partners we tried the modern. The Peninsula is soooo thick and hard to get around in that unless you can call to locate or call to get em to come to you its nearly impossible to find em consistently! but you'll love the fishing up there!

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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2011, 07:16:09 AM »
I'd probably go the second week of archery.

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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2011, 08:52:22 AM »
I'd probably go the second week of archery.
One difference I have seen between East and west, East-side, a lot of hunters head home during the second week, or come up the second week.
Where on the west side I see about the same all through the season, with increased pressure during late.
Could be because it takes less travel time to hunt west-side for most....
Living in Forks, you could scout and hunt almost any time....
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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2011, 09:48:19 AM »
My vote would be archery.

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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2011, 10:08:57 AM »
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Thoughts or advice in general on getting into those Roosies?
I archery hunt, and just want to suggest one difference I have run into between Rockies and Roosies,
When I hunted on the east side for Rockies, I would call, sometimes get a response, sometimes not, but when they came in to me, it was at a walk, sometimes run.
They would cover quite a distance in a matter of minutes.
Hunting on the coast (or near) I have had them take 1/2 hour or more, just to cover 300 yards !!
often walking in on me after I had given up, and begin moving again.  :bash:
Makes me think about something I heard about cats and dogs,....
"A dog comes when you call him, where a cat will take a message and get back to you."
They just dont seem to be in a hurry for anything, even when I get busted, they seem to only run 1oo yards, then stop to see if I am following, then try to circle down wind, The Rockies always just ran out of the drainage, stopping at or near ridgeline (and even then only sometimes)
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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2011, 05:57:38 PM »
 When you get to Forks give me a shout and I will point you in the right direction.
 Welcome to the site. This is a great place.

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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2011, 06:11:19 PM »
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Thoughts or advice in general on getting into those Roosies?
I archery hunt, and just want to suggest one difference I have run into between Rockies and Roosies,
When I hunted on the east side for Rockies, I would call, sometimes get a response, sometimes not, but when they came in to me, it was at a walk, sometimes run.
They would cover quite a distance in a matter of minutes.
Hunting on the coast (or near) I have had them take 1/2 hour or more, just to cover 300 yards !!
often walking in on me after I had given up, and begin moving again.  :bash:
Makes me think about something I heard about cats and dogs,....
"A dog comes when you call him, where a cat will take a message and get back to you."
They just dont seem to be in a hurry for anything, even when I get busted, they seem to only run 1oo yards, then stop to see if I am following, then try to circle down wind, The Rockies always just ran out of the drainage, stopping at or near ridgeline (and even then only sometimes)

i was just wondering when is the best time to practice bugling in roosies in that area ?

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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2011, 06:26:03 PM »
 Personally I do not bugle for Roosevelt elk in this area.
Seems like they do not respond well here to the bugle and I have seen them actually leave the area when bugled.
Might have something to do with people out practicing bugling.

John

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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2011, 06:40:25 PM »
Jonhans I sent you a pm. Not sure why you would leave Montana to move to this wet brush hole but we will welcome you. We have elk to hunt and even an indoor archery range now to practice in.

Blacktailcrzy practice all you want at home or go play with them in the park somewhere in late Sept just not anywhere people hunt, we have enough educated elk that have heard every call made by man. If you have your calls and a good cd with elk sounds that is the best practice you can have.nwhunter

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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2011, 06:45:38 PM »
I spend a lot of time hunting that area.  My overall conclusion is this:

Archery:  Good units available where you can spread out and explore...not too crowded.  The early season tends to be a bit too early for the rut.  Vegetation still really thick.  "Dry" twigs and branches...making crunchy noises.

Muzzleloader:  Not a whole lot of units but a couple of them hold some real bruisers.  The early season is timed great for the rut.  The early season is crowded.  The late season is pretty long, just over three weeks.  At least one unit for late season has bigguns, but even if it isn't raining like a mother....the mosses and ferns are flinging the moisture up at you, so you still get soaked.  Very few hunters in the late season.

Rifle:  All the units open, crowded--trucks everywhere.  But not many people away from the roads.  Rain at this time tends to be hit/miss.  Too late for the rut, and a little early for the snow to force herds out of the Park.  Probably see RVs and big tents in most places where the road pulls off or opens up enough to allow.

For archery, early muzzle, and modern there are units open such that you can shoot them near the river bottoms and then launch a driftboat upriver for retrieval.
The early seasons can really be wildcards when it comes to weather....this past year early muzzle seemed to coincide with the warmest/driest week I can remember for October.  If you choose muzzle, learn to get a good 'waterproof' program down for the muzzy.

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Re: Archery, muzzle, or modern for penninsula elk??
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2011, 07:43:34 AM »
Personally I do not bugle for Roosevelt elk in this area.
Seems like they do not respond well here to the bugle and I have seen them actually leave the area when bugled.
Might have something to do with people out practicing bugling.

John

 I bugle. I do not bugle tons and tons, but I bugle. If the bull has a herd and you bugle from too close, yes, they are gone. I believe that he feels threatened and heads on out.

 Regardless, the bull will most always answer back, at least, and then from there, even if you do not know if he is with cows, just put the bugle away and be quiet.

 If it is a loner, it will answer back and sometimes come in. Cow chirping is the most effective. I have had many, including the one I killed this year, come to my chirp, although I was heading to his bugle. We cross paths, unknowingly. I ended up where the bull was when he bugled and the bull ended up where I was when I chirped.

 Eventually, we found each other and I just thawed out some of his jerky meat :drool: for a snack later today.

 


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