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Re: SB5622 Discover Pass - sent to Gov
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2011, 07:39:50 PM »
OK, so you're saying anywhere within Capitol State Forest, the pass will be required? Even if a person is not using established trails, parking areas, campgrounds, etc? If so, I guess I won't be hunting there anymore. That's ok. I have lots of other areas to hunt. As long as I can hunt all other state lands without the pass I'm happy.

I have to agree with Bobcat....$10 a day for a pass is ridiculous!!
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Re: SB5622 Discover Pass - sent to Gov
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2011, 08:00:37 PM »
I'll just hop a ride with my bro where ever his Company is logging, or one of the many loggers that owe him favors....  This is where i take my stand... I'll just say NO!
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Re: SB5622 Discover Pass - sent to Gov
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2011, 08:12:57 AM »
I am not buying it, period.  I work on state land 90% of the time and I sure as hell aint buying a pass to go to work . Does this mean the tribes have to purchase this pass or as usual they are exempt?
go ahead on er.

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Re: SB5622 Discover Pass - sent to Gov
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2011, 06:03:31 PM »
Was talking to a few of my partners in crime today, they are pretty old school and it didn't sound like they would be willing to purchase a pass to access public land.A person is gonna have to get a permit to piss before long. Is this even enforceable? there is all kinds of things going on out there and hell they can't catch the bad guys, so why would this be any different? The dnr guys i work with have bigger fish to fry than something like this.
go ahead on er.

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Re: SB5622 Discover Pass - sent to Gov
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2011, 06:10:42 PM »
I'm not going to purchase a pass either. I would if I could purchase just one, and use it on any of my four vehicles. I know, I could just buy it for one vehicle, and then just be sure to only use that vehicle when accessing state lands. But- it's the principle of it. I don't think I should be required to purchase the pass for every vehicle I own. So therefore, I will not be purchasing any at all. I am not going to risk a ticket either, so I will avoid public lands where it is required. But as bigtex said, it's only required for certain recreation areas on DNR lands. I'm not sure how people are supposed to know where it is and isn't required though. My opinion is that it should only be required for certain parking lots, campgrounds, and other developed areas that the DNR has specifically for recreational activities. I don't know how much enforcement of this there will be on DNR lands, but I'm not willing to risk a $100 ticket. There are plenty of places to hunt where it won't be required.

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Re: SB5622 Discover Pass - sent to Gov
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2011, 06:10:55 PM »
My opinion..I like it because there are a lot of hikers, bikers, trikers, campers, watchers, salal/berry/bark pickers, fern fondlers..using our state lands that don't pay a damn thing!  I do not feel sorry..I see many users every year trash public land..not sure this will change it but maybe it will help?

I will buy the $30.00 permit.  But I believe that is per vehicle?  I want to know if there will be a charge for each registered vehicle..meaning another permit needed for a boat/trailer and/or camper?  And will boatlaunch fees be extra.  :dunno:
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Re: SB5622 Discover Pass - sent to Gov
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2011, 06:26:58 PM »
I'm not sure how people are supposed to know where it is and isn't required though. My opinion is that it should only be required for certain parking lots, campgrounds, and other developed areas that the DNR has specifically for recreational activities. I don't know how much enforcement of this there will be on DNR lands, but I'm not willing to risk a $100 ticket. There are plenty of places to hunt where it won't be required.

The bill/law requires a sign to be in place notifying visitors that the pass is required for access. Just like the signs that are currently in place for the WDFW access sites.

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Re: SB5622 Discover Pass - sent to Gov
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2011, 06:33:18 PM »
Is this even enforceable? there is all kinds of things going on out there and hell they can't catch the bad guys, so why would this be any different? The dnr guys i work with have bigger fish to fry than something like this.

Definitely enforceable. The vehicle use permit/access permit is one of the most commonly written tickets for WDFW Officers statewide.

As far as DNR goes. Since DNR is a limited authority law enforcement agency they can give limited authority DNR commissions (only enforce DNR laws) to their non-law enforcement officers, essentially your basic "grunt" DNR worker. This bill allows those non-law enforcement DNR workers to cite people for this violation. There are less then 10 DNR Law Enforcement Officers statewide, so they are not going to be the only DNR personnel enforcing this law. Last I heard there were about 70 DNR employees who had this DNR-only citation authority.

However since WDFW is a full-authority law enforcement agency the only WDFW personnel enforcing the law will be WDFW Officers.

 


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